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    gaelic is a language of the past nobody except people in the north use it any more and us in the south of Scotland have to suffer it on tv
    the government spend thousands on it when it would be better used in schools and hospitals
    ok its the language of Scotland but would it not be better to let it die peacefully instead of being dragged along through the 21st century

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    Ok hon..I see your point about the money they spend on it. but when Iwas in the highlands i heard the language allot. Some lowlanders speak it too. I would say that if the families want thier kids to learn it then they should have that options. But to force it on those that dont want it them i think that is wrong. So i do understand your point

    Evie

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    • #3
      So dae ah, sodie watter.

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      • #4
        The right to speak your own native language is a human right enshrined in United Nations legislation. Obviously no language is confined ti the past if it is used on a day-to-day basis in any area.
        More money was spent eradicating Gaelic and Scots in favour of English. The amount spent on TV is marginal and not enough. You don't have to put up with it at all. The Gaels have to put up with a TV schedule 99.9% nothing to do with their culture. Full of pathetic middle class sitcoms from Middle England.
        Is that what you prefer ?
        Probably is, but if you looked at any linguistic reports, any of the human rights legislation, the struggle for language recognition, you would probably have kept your pathetic and ill-informed opinions to yourself Colin.
        Waken up and open yer eyes, or at least have a point thats not based on your own bias unresearched misgivings !

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        • #5
          Originally posted by colin 30
          gaelic is a language of the past nobody except people in the north use it any more and us in the south of Scotland have to suffer it on tv
          the government spend thousands on it when it would be better used in schools and hospitals
          ok its the language of Scotland but would it not be better to let it die peacefully instead of being dragged along through the 21st century
          'Gaelic is the language of Scotland?'.Like hell it is!I don't speak gaelic,I don't know anybody who speaks gaelic and my ancestors probably haven't spoken it for about 1000 years.It is the language of a small minority of Scots and I resent hearing it on TV every day.In fact Gaelic is complete anathema to me and only common courtesy prevents me from expressing my true feelings with greater'eloquence'.

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          • #6
            I really am very sorry that Gaelic was absolutely abolished(being a Highlander myself) by the English Government, but do we need Gaelic nowadays? I don't think so, do the Safeway supermarkets in Inverness and Fort William write signs in Gaelic and English just to show off? And why do the Highland Council write signs like that? Showing off of course.. it seems that we are just trying to strangle all the novelty value out of the Gaelic language just to appeal to tourists.


            Mr. D "contradiction" Grant

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            • #7
              I often visit Scotland and Wales. I have this feeling that the Welsh, more than the Scots, have an own identity because of their language. But I do love the Scottish accent !
              KelFam

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              • #8
                Re: Gaelic

                Originally posted by colin 30
                gaelic is a language of the past nobody except people in the north use it any more and us in the south of Scotland have to suffer it on tv
                the government spend thousands on it when it would be better used in schools and hospitals
                ok its the language of Scotland but would it not be better to let it die peacefully instead of being dragged along through the 21st century

                OK: With me being first generation in this country [Australia] I think I at least have an opinion - I think that there is a language that is now ours - English. However, with being of Scots heritage I believe that we should be given the chance to at least know our own language. i.e. The language that was stolen from us. When I was a child I was forced to learn Italian, French and German, so why not at least ONE language being Scots? But your not talking of options are you? You are talking of being forced into speaking Gael.

                Cailen Cambeul
                Last edited by colinthethird; 11th November 2007, 08:37. Reason: I hate inconsistancy
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                • #9
                  What else? I'd love to learn Gaelic but there is just one problem; I've no-one to speak Gael to. What's more, I refuse to learn Irish Gaelic. I remember when I was learning Esperanto and there was nobody to speak it to, so it was more or less a wasted effort. The same can be said with Gael if I was to get off my rear-end and actually learn something.

                  Colin Campbell III

                  Cailen Cambeul
                  Or I should piss the chief off by calling myself MhicCailenMor

                  P.S. Any sheilas interested before I die?
                  Last edited by colinthethird; 11th November 2007, 09:14. Reason: I hate inconstistancy
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ANDY-J
                    Originally posted by colin 30
                    gaelic is a language of the past nobody except people in the north use it any more and us in the south of Scotland have to suffer it on tv
                    the government spend thousands on it when it would be better used in schools and hospitals
                    ok its the language of Scotland but would it not be better to let it die peacefully instead of being dragged along through the 21st century
                    'Gaelic is the language of Scotland?'.Like hell it is!I don't speak gaelic,I don't know anybody who speaks gaelic and my ancestors probably haven't spoken it for about 1000 years.It is the language of a small minority of Scots and I resent hearing it on TV every day.In fact Gaelic is complete anathema to me and only common courtesy prevents me from expressing my true feelings with greater'eloquence'.

                    Well Andy, there is a very large population of Scots who's ancestors did speak Gaelic even if yours didn't. Also the Gaelic speaking population ahve to put up with TV that almost entirely anathema to them (being in English) and quite possibly resent that. No one is asking you to learn it, but to be so adamently against Gaelic is very offensive to a large number of scots who do and who's ancestors did speak the language. Try most of the population of Glasgow for instance. If you don't like it, try using your intelligence and not watching it. Or better still get Digital. By the way bilingual people have a massive advantage in life as they find new languages easier to learn. They also have more open minds as they are exposed to more than one, insular culture and have more open minds. With that said maybe you ought to try learning another language.
                    Beithir

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                    • #11
                      I think that you should feel very lucky to have Gaelic on tv. and such, the language of a culture is something that should stay with that culture. You seem too much influenced by your neighbours(England). My Grand Farther spoke Galeic Since he was young but after a while lost it I wish that he had never lost it so that I may have been able to learn..and sure you complane about the language now but what happens when you loose it. When you loose some thing that is apart of your culture you are loosing apart of yourself. Look at the native american, should they give up on there language??? even though only out of 20,000 only 225 speak it and the most fluent in it are over sixty. I would say no. The same can be said about the Scottish...well if you Truly feel the way you do you might as well lable yourself and english man then. might as well make your self a full blooded english man.

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                      • #12
                        There is a misconception that Gaelic is an important part of Scotland's culture.Less than one per cent of Scots actually speak the language.It means precisely nothing to me or a great many other Scots and quite frankly there is no earthly reason why it should be otherwise.It is not a part of my history or culture-my language is Scots,a dialect of English which my ancestors have spoken for nearly a thousand years and the language which was spoken by William Wallace and Robert The Bruce.I am bilingual.I speak fluent Spanish which is a language I feel is worth learning as it may be of some practical use to me.Gaelic is however a foreign language which I would not have the slightest interest in learning.My ancestors were Ayrshire presbyterians who were proud to be Scots(as am I)and they were continually involved in conflict with Gaelic speaking highlanders who they regarded as foreigners and were habitually referred to as Irish.

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                        • #13
                          A Lost LAnguage

                          I am from the USA. Over here we have almost eliminated the Native American Languages. They are spoken basically by the old ones and taught to a few af the children. Very rarely spoken off the reservation. Some of the old languages are a lost art and how sad. We fought for freedom of speech and WON!!!
                          I say if you don't want to listen to it on TV...go read a book.

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                          • #14
                            I wonder if you people actually bother reading previous posts.What makes me angry is that 'Scots' is a rich language in it's own right which has been in use for many hundreds of years.Gaelic is a language spoken by a minute proportion of the population.It is not part of the culture or heritage of any but a small minority of Scots.I agree I should avoid listening to Gaelic television programmes-it might save me from throwing my television out of the window in disgust that a foreign language should be promoted in Scotland ahead of 'Scots',which IS a part of our heritage and culture.

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                            • #15
                              Cinnsealach: it's not a good idea to come here bandying accusations about.

                              To no one in particular: My in-laws and all their friends come from Islay, and they speak Gaelic every day of their lives. I know that it's only important to a very small number of people in certain areas of the country. Even if we're not going to use it in our everyday life, I do think that a basic knowledge could be useful if you travel in the Islands, even if it's only to work out how to pronounce place names, or to ear-wig on other conversations!

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