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  • It's been a decade since a Labour-led Holyrood gave Gaelic "equal respect"

    Insular, parochial and narrowly nationalist: Scotland's anti-Gaelic bigots | Herald Scotland

  • #2
    people asking you to speak in a language they understand isnt them being anti gaelic.

    it common decency and courtesy to communicate with people in a way they understand.

    very very simple.

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    • #3
      That depends on whether youre being addressed.

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      • #4
        I have never claimed to understand the revival of Gaelic. Surely it would make more sense for our younger people to learn French, German, Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Urdu even - languages with a commercial application.

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        • #5
          open comments on an online community are addressed to everyone that can see them.

          i disagree mikey, gaelic should be learned in school in Scotland before any other language in my opinion. i think you should be able to speak to the natives of your own country first before learning a foreign language.

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          • #6
            Open forums are about equality of expression and freedom of word choice. If Gaelic is an equal language in Scotland then it has equal rights in a forum on Scottish languages. Its also up to the reader to make an effort if they wish to engage in whats being said. They have that choice and that freedom.

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            • #7
              it is not "up to the reader to make an effort"

              it is up to the poster to make sure people understand what they are saying otherwise your just spamming the forum knowing fine well most people cant understand you.

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              • #8
                Its up to you to make the effort every time you choose to read something and want to understand and take part.You have the freedom to do so.

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                • #9
                  i shunday deb o'ylayman

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                  • #10
                    "For several centuries Gaelic has been the subject of contemptuous attacks from the non-Gaelic speaking
                    majority in Scotland, an onslaught famously described by the eighteenth-century poet
                    Alasdair mac Mhaighstir Alasdair as “mì-rùn mòr nan Gall” (“the great ill-will of the
                    Lowlanders”). The contours of this hostility have changed considerably over the centuries, from
                    concern about “popery” and “barbarity” in the seventeenth century to the racialist theorizing of
                    the nineteenth century (MacKinnon 1991: 40-52; Fenyö 2000). Today, Gaelic and Gaelic
                    speakers continue to be subject to aggressive denigration in the media and other public spheres.
                    While it would be a mistake to over-emphasize either the frequency or importance of these
                    attacks, it is certainly the case that such abusive hostility is considered acceptable within
                    mainstream public discourse in Scotland, and is in no way stigmatized, as are similar attacks on
                    Jews or on the country’s “visible” ethnic minority groups like Pakistanis and Afro-Caribbeans."

                    (Page 12 Gaelic in the New Scotland: Politics, Rhetoric and Public Discourse)
                    Wilson McLeoid 2001

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tig View Post
                      i disagree mikey, gaelic should be learned in school in Scotland before any other language in my opinion. i think you should be able to speak to the natives of your own country first before learning a foreign language.
                      But what proportion of native Scots speak Gaelic with fluency? I am sure that we agree that the vast majority of Scots speak English as their primary language and as far as I'm aware, there are no native Gaelic speakers who do not also speak English. So why would we want to focus our resources on having people speak to each other in a different language when there is already a common language??
                      Last edited by mikeyBoab; 29th June 2015, 13:46. Reason: typo

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                      • #12
                        Thats precisely the reason why Gaelic needs more attention than English. English has been fed at the expense of Gaelic and this was a very deliberate policy of cultural annihilation.

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                        • #13
                          It was . . . several hundred years ago. Now, we are where we are. We are predominantly an English-speaking nation.

                          But there are reasons that people opt not to learn Gaelic, the main one being that it isn't that useful.

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                          • #14
                            Cha channainsa gum biodh seo ceart.

                            Study suggests Gaelic worth up to £148.5m a year to economy - BBC News

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                            • #15
                              Great! So businesses can opt to use Gaelic if they want, nothing to stop them.

                              But let us put that figure in context - £148 million. That is a drop in the oceans that are both the Scottish and the British economies.

                              Very interesting article though; I had missed that. Thanks for the link.

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