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    My name is Houssine Najaar,i'm 40 years old,i'm specialised in ethnology and linguistic,i born near Paris in 1965 ,i'm arab from Algeria in north africa,between 1990 and 1993,i have studied tree years history in university of Paris 1,Pantheon-Sorbonne,the enseignement of this tree years in Sorbonne is in French universities history course is only ideological enseignement,in this period between 1990-1993 i see teatcher who are communist,socialist,royaliste...all are the fanatic for what he believ.They are professors who are favorabl for the 1789 french revolution and other against.It's absolutly ridicul if any one speak about the objectivity in french historien,of course afther this period i don't take any degree (context of the war in Irak...) and certainly i don't have any party.Afther this short introduction i want to speak about the origin of the celtics poepls befor the division in a tribs or clan like you want,of course they are more one hypothese about this poepls,Biblical origins the celts is hebraic jew purchased from Jerusalem,an others hypothesys the celts was originaly from Rome and beome in the Great-Britain whit Brutus who give his nam for the bretons,others call the celts was the phenitiens navigator who are instaled in this countries for the commerce,others call the Scottish is from the North-Africa because they are similitude in the name of the place ORAN is the name of town in north-western of algeria,and others call the celts was the old semitic population because they are silmilitude in the Gaelic,Judaic and arab language,the verb is in the first position for this languages we have Verb-Subject-Complement,where is the tru hypothese?I'm ethnologue and linguist,i study not the origin of the Scottich but the cultur in relation whit a ethnic population.And i can proced a comparison amongst them :Breton,Scotish,Irish...we have different evolution of this poepls,if you take the present time,we see most of them don't speak a celtic language but english for Scotish,Irish,Welsh...etc and french for Breton and pearhaps arabic for poepls who live in North-africa befor the arabs was becoming in the 7 th century,i believ the evolution in ethnic societies is very important for understanding what we are today.I can call i do no what is the origin of the pict because this societies is oral societies,i don't believ this argument is correct.

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    Gaelic for an historian

    Treachdair,s.m.An historian

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    • #3
      The Picts is originaly from north Africa

      In add to my precedent méssage about the origins of picts,i would like give a new element about North-Africans provenance of the picts.They are lotof old strong in south of Algeria whit old inscription the nam of this inscrpition is Tiphinag personaly i contest this appelation because ins not the correct .Archelog are named this inscription tifinag only because believe this inscpition is from phenician caracters.My personel opinion is whitout a dout this old inscription is the primitif old gaelic,the identity between this inscritions and picts inscriptions is absolutly identical.I believ the old celts stay in this areas South Algeria befor his emigration to britannic isle and afther coming from arabic peninsula. Can anyone know when we can see the inscpition who are discovered in the Hogar (South Algerien desert),web site?I believ if you compare the two inscription you will be persuaded of the same identity between them.

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      • #4
        I bet this might be of interest, if only we could understand what you are typing.....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Houssine
          personaly i contest this appelation because ins not the correct .
          The Appelation Mountains are in Eastern North America.

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          • #6
            The celtic origin

            In a precedent message i cal they are evidently relation between the picts writting and the the writting who are discovering in the south Algeria,in the sahara,the region whish the name is HOGAR or AHAGAR,in this regions they are old writting or picture whish are absolutly identical whit the pict writting,i believ the population of that times in those areas are celtic population,other element proof my theory is correct in North Algeria they are a very old town i have he is founded by Scottich priest his name is URAN and the name of this city is ORAN in english and WAHRAN in Arabic,i believ the celtics ethnies is originaly from Arabic peninsula come in the Ile of Britain in the old time pearhaps 6000 before the present,this populations was staying a time in Algerian sahara in the Hogar,whish are the pict inscription and than this population have migrated to the north and founded the town of URAN or ORAN and afthers that this population was divised in tree parts one have stayed in the South Algeria is probably the TWAREG ? and the second group is stayed in ORAN whi i'm originated and the tird group have emigrated in the british isle,the others division is of course between : Scottish,Irish,Wales...Please if they are any specialist of archeology of this area of south Algeria i conjur him he give us his knowledge about this ecriture.
            They are others caracters to proof the celts is descendand of old Arabs tribs,today many personns call the synbol of Islam is the fertif crescent and the Green colour,you say like me the green for the celts is important colour look the name of "GLASGOW" glas is the green.I'm ethnologyst and linguist,i'm very serious in my reshearch.This my theory i believ whitout dout the celtic populations have coming to the British Isle par la mer ,i'm sorry i writt in french because i don't have sufficient vocabulary in english you can see my message about this case in religion and philosophy), i repeat the celtics populations was coming in the british isles by the sea from the mediteraneen sea and contourned the iberic peninsula,and the Angls and Saxons,who are germanic population whitout the dout have becoming by the earth.I believ the Celtics population and the Germanics population is absolutly opposed in all,ethnicity,folklor,language,political systems,the Celtic population is democratic,pacific who love the peace and justic if you read the legend of the king Arthur you are convainging by my arguments,the populations which have Germanic origin,like french,english,part of americain population was agressive,violent,dictatorial ,want dominated the world ,the french empir,english empirs...they are explication of this behavior the mind of the celt is open mind in the old time the celts live in the sahara and afther near the sea the sahara or the sea is not different he give a plenitud for the man but the Germanic population leave inside the earth whit the sauvage animals like le loup (i'm sorry le loup in french ) this behaviour was violent for the protection of the self and he creat a dictatorial power for the protections of the community against the nature.

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            • #7
              [QUOTE=Houssine]............you say like me the green for the celts is important colour look the name of "GLASGOW" glas is the green.

              Not grey?

              Originally posted by Houssine
              ...........animals like le loup (i'm sorry le loup in french ) ..........
              Loup = wolf.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Polwarth
                I bet this might be of interest, if only we could understand what you are typing.....
                I bet it isn't. About all it perhaps shows is that Islamic thinking hasn't progressed much further from the way it was practiced during the 8th century. Which should please the Islamists, since for them that was the ideal time to be in.
                Meow!

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                • #9
                  Awwwww, c'moaaaaannnnnn - gie him the benefit o the doot.

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                  • #10
                    I'm going to write to Lochiel, of Cameroon, and ask him what he thinks of these African origin stories.

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                    • #11
                      The name of Oran

                      Hello,my name is Houssine Najaar,i'm ethnologist and linguist,i'm 40 years old,i'm specialised in celtic civilisation,in this moment and since 5 years i study Breton which are language of Brittany,celtic population in North-West of France,i'm also a great admiratif of Scottich and Welsh celtics.I have studied in Irish center in Paris,Gaelic for two years but whitout success,the adress of the center is www.centre-irlandais.fr, this reashearchs is a great part of my life,i begining in 1989 and i was specialised in a small isle situated in the Golf du Morbihan,his name is Groix,most population of this isle is a celtic descendant and a few of them is descendant of arabs refugee in this isle in the 8th,in the reigne of calif Abderahmen the first,the boat of this arabs navigators was naufraged in a tempest,4 of them save his live,and stayed in Groix in the 8th, i have take this information from a book published in french in 1895,by french physician who writte the history of this isle.His name is Dr J.Vincent,the titl is :L'Ile the Groix autrefois.You can byi it in www.amazon.fr he was reedited mainly.Today the population of this isle speak only french because the breton is forbiden in french scool.

                      The name of Oran is in french in arabic is Wahrran,if you supprim the first letter w,we have the gaelic name of isle of arran.This is a new proof of my theory which i have developed in a precedent message.I repeat in summary my point of view,i believ the celtic was population of the sea and for the comparison Germanic or slavic was population of the earth,this is my first point,i believ you are alright whit me for this point.The habitant of isle de Groix are a big mariners befor the WW2,and you have Groisillons (Goisillons is the french name of habitant the Groix),writte in a book a poem wchi he call, the coulor of his blood in his body is not red like the all men but is glaz like the coulor of the sea and he call when he was a baby he drunk the milk of his moter,which are not witte but glaz like the coulor of the sea.This devlopement rejoingn my idea of theCeltic population is a civilisation of the sea and Germanic population or Slavic population is devloped a earth civilisation.The time is 16:48 P.M i'go to listen a cour in linguistic for this reason i can complet my message.You can send me your comments or proposition or question in this site or in mi box directly. houssinenajaar@yahoo.com

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                      • #12
                        So, OK..... I DID give him the benefit of the doubt. I was wrong. I admit it. I'm sorry. You lot were RIGHT.

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                        • #13
                          I can understand most of this because at one time I had a boyfriend from Algeria....I got used to this stuff and his pronounciations lol! What could help you a bit ( I will read this more thoroughly later) is the evidence DNA wise that the Celts and Berbers and Basques are from common ancestors..yes there is Spanish in the Irish from the Iberian Peninsula...check in Northern Spain for data...forget southern the Celts were in the North. Check also Phoenicians as they were also allied with some of the Celtic migrations of long times past and in fact there are phoenician idols in Britian...the awful goddess Bel Hathor I believe she is called....aka Baal's wife....although she is called the
                          sheelnagig goddess in Ireland...(same awful thing she is)....gives me the creeps to no end. You will also find her in Turkey where our populations also were at one time...though I stress our people at one time were like a long arm that swept along at its own pace...so there were tribes in Asia and Europe simultaneously....for a long while they traversed back and forth and told the Romans that Britain...."was only a far flung OUTPOST",...as in not a home just a post. Maybe the best way to explain it is by using Ghengis Khanas an example...his men roamed from Mongolia to France...yet the main home post was in Mongolia....the Celts were nomadic as well in some cases and there were Celts who were settled as well...it all depended on the circumstances and the Caste. There were 4 castes and the Warrior caste went all over the world as mercenary soldiers....the priestly or Druid caste had training centres and were therefore as a rule in fixed places...though personal druids or tribal druids were also common....the Berber and the Celts have phoenician ties and note the Phoenicians were from Lebanon. Look there as alot of really good archaelogical data can be had in those areas. Check th Danmoni tribe (my tribe) as we traded Tin from our mines in Cornwall with Israel. My family ruled Cornwall in our Celtic past and Brittany and in Wales....all their royal Celtic families were tied to each other at least as long as we ruled...brothers and cousins were put in Wales Cornwall and Brittany in the areas that were our domain...in fact our family's DNA has Jewish and Spanish blood. Our family kept records and Brittany has done a wonderful job on the archaeology. Check there. Brittany has records in French.


                          Originally posted by Houssine
                          Hello,my name is Houssine Najaar,i'm ethnologist and linguist,i'm 40 years old,i'm specialised in celtic civilisation,in this moment and since 5 years i study Breton which are language of Brittany,celtic population in North-West of France,i'm also a great admiratif of Scottich and Welsh celtics.I have studied in Irish center in Paris,Gaelic for two years but whitout success,the adress of the center is www.centre-irlandais.fr, this reashearchs is a great part of my life,i begining in 1989 and i was specialised in a small isle situated in the Golf du Morbihan,his name is Groix,most population of this isle is a celtic descendant and a few of them is descendant of arabs refugee in this isle in the 8th,in the reigne of calif Abderahmen the first,the boat of this arabs navigators was naufraged in a tempest,4 of them save his live,and stayed in Groix in the 8th, i have take this information from a book published in french in 1895,by french physician who writte the history of this isle.His name is Dr J.Vincent,the titl is :L'Ile the Groix autrefois.You can byi it in www.amazon.fr he was reedited mainly.Today the population of this isle speak only french because the breton is forbiden in french scool.

                          The name of Oran is in french in arabic is Wahrran,if you supprim the first letter w,we have the gaelic name of isle of arran.This is a new proof of my theory which i have developed in a precedent message.I repeat in summary my point of view,i believ the celtic was population of the sea and for the comparison Germanic or slavic was population of the earth,this is my first point,i believ you are alright whit me for this point.The habitant of isle de Groix are a big mariners befor the WW2,and you have Groisillons (Goisillons is the french name of habitant the Groix),writte in a book a poem wchi he call, the coulor of his blood in his body is not red like the all men but is glaz like the coulor of the sea and he call when he was a baby he drunk the milk of his moter,which are not witte but glaz like the coulor of the sea.This devlopement rejoingn my idea of theCeltic population is a civilisation of the sea and Germanic population or Slavic population is devloped a earth civilisation.The time is 16:48 P.M i'go to listen a cour in linguistic for this reason i can complet my message.You can send me your comments or proposition or question in this site or in mi box directly. houssinenajaar@yahoo.com
                          What is the use of intelligence when one lacks compassion for the life around oneself? And what is the point of beauty, when one's heart isn't one's loveliest feature?

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                          • #14
                            Biblical origin stuff is pretty much unsubstantiated and illogical stuff, so i will discard it.
                            There is an undercurrent stream of British Israelism, which is not only unfounded and unsubstantiated, it is utterly revisionist of history and simply seeks to propagate a ludicrous idea about some group of people who are the self-styled 'chosen people' stuff.
                            If you wanna look at the history of scotland, look no further than the ancient Celts and Picts, who were neo-modern inhabitants of the isles with basic cultural and societerial premise, with a massive influx of Nordic and Anglo-Saxon blood during the Viking and migration era.

                            As per the middle-eastern themed names, there may be some truth to that. Ancient Europe was well charted by the Phoenicians and the Greeks and all mediterranean languages of the past share a commonality with ancient Egyptian. Given that the mediterranean nations such as Greece, Phoenicia and Egypt were the bastions of civilisation in those days, its not surprising that names coined by them have stuck.Caledonia is another example with turkic connotations stretching back from the 1300s( Caledonia = Kali Duniya = black earth, in reference to the predominantly black-silt and peatbog marshes of Ireland and the Isles).Hebrew is nothing more than evolved heiratic - which isnt surprising given that the early Israelis (or the biblical israelis) were an offshoot of egyptians that went and destroyed Caanan.
                            There is no mention-not one- of Jewish links to the entire French and Islandic celts till Brian Boru's grandson in the 1100s and with little minor cultural influences on the celts from the miniscule jewish settlements on the isles around that period, fleeing the persecution of the Reconquista(bulk of the ejected jews went to Morocco/modern day Israel-Palestine-Lebanon-Syria, some went to the relatively obscure isles in those days).

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                            • #15
                              For once I mostly agree with what you've said here. The only point I'll disagree on is that genetic testing has shown that the previously assumed "massive influx" of Nordic and Anglo-Saxon blood was not as massive as once thought. The ancient inhabitants of Great Britain may have descended from people who once lived in the middle east - but it was 20,000 or 30,000 years ago. The 'modern' (last 1000 years or so) natives of the British Isles are mostly descended from the people who spread out across Europe after the last ice age (around 10,000 years ago).

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