Anti English Website - Tartan Army

You say it's a shame, but why is it a shame? Why should there be any relevance in which team English people support when there own team isn't playing? Why do English people seem to find it so sad when Scottish people don't support their team? We are not English and you are not Scottish so why should there be any expectation of either of us supporting the other team?

If individual Scots support an English team, that's their choice, but there seems to be an expectation amongst English people that Scots will get behind their (England's) team, and a noticable disappointment when it doesn't happen. It has been evident here and I find myself asking why. I have my own theory, but I'll keep it to myself until I have heard a few responses from English fans.

[reiverix]

At the end of the day, we live in free countries and make our own decisions about how we choose to walk the path of life. That includes who we support.

Got to say though, that living in the States for the last 4 years has really softened my view. I always wanted England to get beat. Now I'm just indifferent.

The reason - I do not have to put up with getting Englishness rammed down my throat by the media. They drive a huge wedge between us, even if they don't mean to.

[Rob_Roy_Kowalski]

Originally posted by reiverix
The reason - I do not have to put up with getting Englishness rammed down my throat by the media. They drive a huge wedge between us, even if they don't mean to.

This is the problem in a nutshell. I have nothing against English people individually. I find the majority of them pleasant people and good company. The percentage of the population who are arseholes is probably the same percentage as among Scots.

I also have no dislike for any of their players. Why should I? In fact, I would find it hard to understand cheering the Portuguese players in preferrence to the English players, based on the histrionics to which the Portuguese, and most latin nations, are prone.

It does however, raise the hackles for me when I have to listen to their media spouting drivel at every opportunity. Witness the commentators comment when Rooney was injured against Portugal. "Let's hope he will be fit for the final", was the call, displaying a breathtaking level of arrogance that they seem regularly capable of.

I am not sure if I agree with the final part of the quoted text though. I suspect that they know it annoys us and so they deliberately set out to provoke.

Looks like they are succeeding.

[Edited by Rob_Roy_Kowalski on 3rd July 2004 at 19:56]

[Talon]

My first relegated point would be....that if we are Great Britain...the united states of...why do we have four countries fighting for supremecy...why do we not have just one...the GB... why are we not GB'ing it all.......

Cause lets be honest as..the rulers would it not be in the best interest of the english to mesh us all together...

But you did not...you made us seperate...you called upon St. George... we were happy to give you Andrew as a backup...but we were scorned..lol... so we are free and seperate...we are all ...NI, Whales and Scotland...seperate but conquered... by your leave..... you had the power to unify yet you did not... only the power of finacial and in literaturally have you defined yourselfs ... and tried to educate us....

Here...possibly....its a work in progress...in action now.......yet we as.... independants....claim our rights towards freedom....towards your soft hearted diplomacy...to our own secular individuality...hate us if you like, for defending non-existent internationaly independance......yet, we cannot help ourselves....
all we wish is to hold onto our national pride.......

We care not for your over freedom of independance we want only, to be be lost within the same ambiguity of any new and learning country...but yet we have to be learned.. in our southern dictators....in that you will only see discontented wildness...yet in such a small vision you must procure our delicatly dictated independant desire....

much of my personal independant thought strings together a concerto of unified desire...yet lyrical words of falsehood need to rectify within the third verse

all sites have a point...and on this...a scottish site...it has one....

Just what are you on, Talon, and is there any chance of an English translation of the post above?

[Talon]

ha ha...I dont know Neil, as I was a little bitty drunk when I posted it...though I am glad to see that even in my stupour I was not as arrogant as you...

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