A Uniquely American Phenomenon

[jambo_03]

"I see you have successfully answered and realized all by yourself that you actually did not have an argument to put forth here, what you do have is a biased position ready to be fired up at the first mention of America [or England] in any light other than the pejorative one."

Uh I originally put forth the argument that the average yank doesn’t know where Scotland is, other people proved that for me by giving examples. I also put forth the argument that the author of the original article doesn’t know the difference between England and Britain, you and your fellow countryman decided to jump down my throat citing it as preposterous, instead of giving me an intelligent argument as to WHY I am wrong....when the simple reason is I am right and you have NO argument.

As for England, I reasoned that the English promote themselves as the "real" brits...this is absolutely true and anyone who has been to England or even watched the English media that is beamed into Scottish TV daily will tell you it's true!

"You have managed to attack not only America but also England [and everyone else] in one post flat."

Excuse me? I attacked EVERYONE? lol! get a grip of yourself! I did nothing of the sort...where did I "attack" England exactly? please read my above paragraph regarding what I said about England.

"It is too bad that people are not properly educated — oh! the examples…— and it surely does not help to have the media distorting information. If in the US the big sin of the media is to portray England as the sole representative of the UK, in the UK it is to motivate people to develop biased views against the US. Which one is worse?"

I doubt the British media have an agenda to incite negative views about Americans...anyway the US does this pefectly well on it's own.

"It is known that schooling systems worldwide are far from what is desirable but remember that the US system is comprised of international professionals, including British"

Yeah but the majority are American...I never met a single British Prof.

On a last note… you took a post about Sports out of context [going off topic!] so that you could spread your bigotry then you proceeded to offend everyone, this seems to me the work of a one agenda person.

Once again you come up with the ridiculous notion that I've offended everyone? Or is this the American attitude that the "world" is anything between Florida and Alaska? I offended two sensitive wee petals who have zero argument to put forth!

I'm so sorry you were crushed to hear that not everyone loves you lol, maybe you shouldn’t be using the net where you might bump into people with opinions that differ from yours since you obviously cant deal with it?

"And the mention of Moderators here is quite 'suspicious.' If you do have an interest in this board other than to show off your agenda, by all means use it adequately, even to educate! or else I really do not see how anyone can benefit from your posts."

What agenda? I have none, I made a point and no one argued it...the benefit is that people on here now see that you and this other clown are complete numptys who couldn’t hold an argument with a plank of wood and will steer clear of your posts in future.

[Ulrikke]

Hey Bitter One:

You did not put anything forth here but your bigotry, hatred, ignorance and lack of education. Fortunately, because you say so does not make things true. No where in the Article there was a mistake, no where here anyone has given you arguments to support your biased agenda.

As already state the English is also a true Briton. Wake up oh ignorant one! You are part of the United Kingdom, you are part of a global society and economy.

The Americans do not know where Scotland is?

It is then a miracle that Americans make up for the majority of the tourism income in Scotland!

http://www.scotexchange.net/Download...ism%202001.pdf

Table 4b : Overseas Visitors * Country Of Origin

USA 51,000
France 19,000
Spain 19,000
Netherlands18,000
Eire 15,000
Germany15,000
Sweden 11,000
Italy 9,000
Belgium and Luxembourg 8,000
Canada 8,000
Australia 6,000
Austria 6,000
Norway 6,000
Japan 4,000

Rest of World 51,000

The USA, France and Spain were the main overseas business markets for Scotland accounting, intotal for 37% of overseas business trips. Netherlands is the fourth biggest market accounting for 8%of overseas business visitors. It is interesting to note that some countries responsible for a largernumber of trips, may not necessarily contribute a similar proportion in terms of expenditure.

It is then another miracle that Americans do not stop the adoration for Scotland: Diana Gabaldon Series, Breaveheart, Scotland.com and the list goes on.

You first spoke for all Moderators [suspicious indeed!] and now you are trying to be the spokes person for all members. I highly doubt that anyone would indeed let him/herself be represented by someone of your level.

And btw two of my professors were British – a Scot and an English while studying in... where else? In the USA!

The benefits here... people are learning how to identify the bigot and the ignorant.

[jambo_03]

More unintelligent nonsense from someone who is obviously way out of his depth and lacks the brain cells to come up with something creative to say...once again I ask you, where in my posts have I shown "hatred" towards any group of people? have you heard of the freedom of speech act by the way? your country is built on it's sentiments! might wanna revise on it's content!


"Fortunately, because you say so does not make things true. No where in the Article there was a mistake, no where here anyone has given you arguments to support your biased agenda."

LOL!!! Uhm I think you will find that YOU gave me enough proof in my claims by posting the entire contents of this survey http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/UK_politics/2491509.stm

Are you REALLY that dim?

"As already state the English is also a true Briton. Wake up oh ignorant one! You are part of the United Kingdom, you are part of a global society and economy."

Yeah and? I don't remember saying they were not British!? I said they claim to be more British than anyone else in the UK, I also gave examples as to why I think this, why is that ignorance? do you even understand half the trash you waffle in your posts?

"The Americans do not know where Scotland is?"

Not all of them but the vast majority yep.

"It is then a miracle that Americans make up for the majority of the tourism income in Scotland!"

Very nice...only your facts are representative of BUSINESS trips to Scotland! it proves absolutely nothing! I will give you that the person who deals in international business may be a tad more geographically savvy than the guy who works in McDonalds but this still proves nothing. For most of these 51,000 people who were sent to Scotland on business it was probably a case of "Christ I better get a map and directions to Scotland if I'm going there!"

"It is then another miracle that Americans do not stop the adoration for Scotland: Diana Gabaldon Series, Breaveheart, Scotland.com and the list goes on."

Braveheart was a money maker for Hollywood, nothing more and a lot of it was fictitious.
The majority of interest in Scotland by Americans is usually to trace ancestors or family trees and since this accounts for a very small area of American population it is hardly significant.

"You first spoke for all Moderators [suspicious indeed!] and now you are trying to be the spokes person for all members. I highly doubt that anyone would indeed let him/herself be represented by someone of your level"

As opposed to YOU who claimed that this board was for AMERICANS and that I was out of place here because I was a Scot? A tad hipocritical don't you think? I throw it back at you and ask what gives you the right to govern who should or should not post on this forum? Where does it also say that it's only for Americans?

"And btw two of my professors were British – a Scot and an English while studying in... where else? In the USA!"

So? what does that prove? I never said there wasn't Brits teaching in America LOL!

"The benefits here... people are learning how to identify the bigot and the ignorant"

Maybe so but I believe with every post YOU make people are learning that you are a uninventive socially inept moron!

[Ulrikke]

Hey Bitter One:

1) Show me exactly where I said that this board is for Americans and only Americans are welcome here.

2) Show me exactly where In the Article the mistake is made about Scotland not being part of the UK.

3) Show me exactly where in the BBC article it stated that this was a survey taken in the USA. Actually that article has no credibility at all considering what the spokes person stated.

4) Tell me exactly how the numbers do not represent Americans tourists. If nothing else it actually proves that Americans are the ones doing business with Scotland.

Braveheart was a "money maker for Hollywood, nothing more and a lot of it was fictitious?" And yet was number one in Scotland box-offices for as long as it played in the theaters.

The American schooling system being comprised of international professionals shows that everyone has the chance to make a difference. Unlike your claim that the American schooling systems is comprised of idiots.

You have no arguments what you do have is an agenda. What you are… well… a bigot, an ignorant and a shame to this board and to Scots, English, Britons in general and Americans!

[jambo_03]

“1) Show me exactly where I said that this board is for Americans and only Americans are welcome here.”

Gladly – “Furthermore, you seem to be in the wrong place altogether, this is indeed an American board. Created and maintained by AMERICANS as a homage [one out of many] to SCOTLAND.”

“2) Show me exactly where In the Article the mistake is made about Scotland not being part of the UK. “

Eh? That wasn’t even the original question Einstein! The original point was that the average American doesn’t know where Scotland is…how did the BBC article prove this? By providing statistics that the average American believes the UK is in the middle east! This is even worse than not knowing where Scotland is, not only do they not know where Scotland is they cant pinpoint the whole friggin Island of Britain! The article states that people know where London and England is but anything else in the UK they don’t? In case you have forgotten Scotland is in the UK!! THIS proves my point!

“3) Show me exactly where in the BBC article it stated that this was a survey taken in the USA. Actually that article has no credibility at all considering what the spokes person stated.”

You seem utterly confused pal, you’re making up questions that I never even asked! Where in my posts have I said anything about where the article originally came from? Also the BBC is the most renowned and respected media corp in the world and I’d certainly believe it more than Fox or CNN.

“4) Tell me exactly how the numbers do not represent Americans tourists.”

Are you serious!? Lol! Because it represents people WHO ARE ON BUSINESS!!! You claim that these 51,000 business people are the bread and butter of the Scottish tourist industry? Hilarious!!

“If nothing else it actually proves that Americans are the ones doing business with Scotland.”

Well done! it’s the only correct and un-doctored statement you’ve made so far.

“Braveheart was a "money maker for Hollywood, nothing more and a lot of it was fictitious?" And yet was number one in Scotland box-offices for as long as it played in the theaters.”

Uhm yes you are quite correct, it’s a movie about Scotland and it’s made by Hollywood…Scottish people are prone to the hype and glamour of tinseltown just like anyone else. Surely this further enhances my point about it being a money maker? Or should I spell it out for you lol.

“The American schooling system being comprised of international professionals shows that everyone has the chance to make a difference. Unlike your claim that the American schooling systems is comprised of idiots.”

It is not COMPRISED of international professionals, there may be a good number of them working in the the US school system but I can assure you the majority is comprised of American lecturers.
Where did I say they were all idiots? Why don’t you quote EXACTLY what I say instead of twisting it in a pathetic attempt to discredit me? You can’t because you’d have nothing!

“You have no arguments what you do have is an agenda. What you are… well… a bigot, an ignorant and a shame to this board and to Scots, English, Britons in general and Americans!”

I’m still waiting to hear you tell me exactly what this big “agenda” of mine is? As for the rest of your insults, they are laughable and again I re-iterate _repetitive drivel from someone with the rebuttal skills of a 4 year old.

This is way too easy!!

P.S. How’s Olga?

[Ulrikke]

Hey Bitter One:

1) Are you sure you understand what you read?

I said: Furthermore, you seem to be in the wrong place altogether, this is indeed an American board. Created and maintained by AMERICANS as a homage [one out of many] to SCOTLAND. A place where Scots can come and show the world what their country, culture and people are all about. And instead, an ignorant like you uses this very medium to portray Scots as people with a chip on their shoulders!

And you read: "As opposed to YOU who claimed that this board was for AMERICANS and that I was out of place here because I was a Scot? A tad hipocritical don't you think? I throw it back at you and ask what gives you the right to govern who should or should not post on this forum? Where does it also say that it's only for Americans? "

2) Your flame was caused by the Article not citing Scotland as part of the UK. Read your original post!

3) The BBC article is not even a survey! From the spokesperson: "A spokeswoman for the culture department said Dr Howells was making a "light hearted" comment to illustrate the need to use expressions in marketing which were familiar to customers."

4) If you think the numbers I presented you do not represent American tourists. Americans in every way make up for the majority of the tourism in Scotland, business or not! Here is more, knock yourself out:

http://www.scotexchange.net/Download...and%201999.pdf


Be grateful oh ungrateful one! Braveheart exposed Scotland to the world. If before that the McDonald's employees and the ordinary person had not heard of Scotland after that film the majority did!

The American system is comprised of international professionals just like every sector in America is. But you would actually need to have an education to know that. How did you call the professors in the US ignorant?

In own words: "I've also taken history courses in Oregon in which the Professors ALL referred to Britain as England...these guys are supposed to be the intelligent ones lol! "

You agenda can be seeing in the biased position you hold and ready to be fired up at the first mention of America [or England] in any light other than the pejorative one. You have a huge chip on your shoulders.

Again… You have no arguments what you do have is an agenda. What you are… well… a bigot, an ignorant and a shame to this board and to Scots, English, Britons in general and Americans!

I will now add to that that you are even more ignorant than at first glance, not only by your use of words and lack or argument but also by your assumption that you actually have a clue of my nationality, gender and etc... Please go get yourself some education and manners, you will need them to interact with people… Then come back and maybe others will give you some credit…

[BoltonBoy21]

[quote]Originally posted by jambo_03


Yeah and? I don't remember saying they were not British!? I said they claim to be more British than anyone else in the UK, I also gave examples as to why I think this, why is that ignorance? do you even understand half the trash you waffle in your posts?




we do NOT claim to be more british than the other members of the UK. but being an arrogant englishman we are the biggest and most dominant member. maybe it's the reason why you scots seem to have an inferiority complex. we are just as british as you and we don not claim to be more british than you.