Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?

[tig]

all banks should be nationalised and made not for profit...or the profits spent for the national good and not for a few individuals to make billions

capitalism doesn't work.....the state of the world proves that

[TheLastLazyGun]

Originally Posted by tig

now go n find pics of their offices in London

I can't, because they don't have any. They are based in Edinburgh, not London.

....and even you should realise thats where all the business is done

Absolute rubbish. Edinburgh is the UK's second-largest financial centre and the fourth-largest in the whole of Europe, so to say that Edinburgh does nothing that the City of London does is absolute tosh and I don't want to have to read it again.

no one said theyre english companies....theyre UK companies FACT

No, they are Scottish companies, fact.

your whole argument is based on the companies name hahahahahaha.

Of course it is. There is a reason it's called the Royal Bank of SCOTLAND.

[TheLastLazyGun]

Originally Posted by morayloon

Point of fact: BoS did not buy Halifax, the two companies merged.

Halifax is now effectively run by the former Bank of Scotland. It's not even based in Halifax anymore. It's based in Edinburgh as HBOS.

What has his nationality got to do with anything

Because there are many Scots - some of whom are on here - who delude themselves into thinking that Edinburgh had no part to play in the financial crisis. They somehow believe that the UK's financial crisis is all the result of the evil City of London and has got nothing to do with Edinburgh, Europe's fourth-largest financial centre.

But the reality is that Britain's banking crisis had a lot to do with the crashing of two Scottish banks.

Salmond was not alone. there was a lot of Brit support for the take over as well -

So? As I've shown Scottish bank RBS was led by a SCOT when it crashed and it crashed because it was encouraged by Scotland's Scottish leader to take over ABN Amro.

it most certainly was not anyone from the SNP who was behind Goodwin's knighthood, awarded for 'services to banking'.

Goodwin was given the knightbhood in 2004, before the banking crisis happened.

[TheLastLazyGun]

Originally Posted by tig

oh n btw (by the way for the hard of thinking)

hbos is owned by lloyds and rbs in owned by the uk gov

giyf u muppet

HBOS became part of Lloyds Banking Group only AFTER it crashed.

And RBS only became 83% owned by the UK government only AFTER it crashed and had to be bailed out by the English taxpayer.

[morayloon]

Originally Posted by TheLastLazyGun

Halifax is now effectively run by the former Bank of Scotland. It's not even based in Halifax anymore. It's based in Edinburgh as HBOS

It was a merger. Just because the HQ of the new company was in Edinburgh does not mean Halifax was taken over. Anyway HBOS WAS taken over by Lloyds TSB.

Because there are many Scots - some of whom are on here - who delude themselves into thinking that Edinburgh had no part to play in the financial crisis. They somehow believe that the UK's financial crisis is all the result of the evil City of London and has got nothing to do with Edinburgh, Europe's fourth-largest financial centre

Don't know what you're on about I'm afraid. Edinburgh may have been the home of two major banks but to suggest the financial area had anything like the amount of blame for the crisis as London is way beyond reality.

But the reality is that Britain's banking crisis had a lot to do with the crashing of two Scottish banks.

Northern Rock, Alliance & Leicester, Bradford & Bingley are not Scottish yet all 3 failed and were taken over. So where does that leave your anti-Scottish beliefs.

So? As I've shown Scottish bank RBS was led by a SCOT when it crashed

So? How many of the companies mentioned above were led by Scots? I doubt if any of them were but feel free to correct me.

it crashed because it was encouraged by Scotland's Scottish leader to take over ABN Amro

Alex Salmond caused the failure of RBS - I've heard it all now! You really must provide evidence of how the master criminal managed this dirty deed.

Goodwin was given the knightbhood in 2004, before the banking crisis happened.

That doesn't mean he should have received the award.

[tig]

Originally Posted by TheLastLazyGun

bailed out by the English taxpayer.

i think youl find it was the UK taxpayer that bailed them out not just your all hard done by english

[TheLastLazyGun]

Originally Posted by morayloon

Anyway HBOS WAS taken over by Lloyds TSB.

Only AFTER the Scottish bank HBOS crashed.

Edinburgh may have been the home of two major banks but to suggest the financial area had anything like the amount of blame for the crisis as London is way beyond reality.

Edinburgh can takes its share of blame for the financial crisis. Why do the Scots always think they are so great and never do anything wrong and that this financial crisis - which started largely in Edinburgh with the crashing of two major Scottish banks - was only the fault of the nasty English and that the Scots are in no way at all to blame? It's just complete and utter breathtaking arrogance.

Northern Rock, Alliance & Leicester, Bradford & Bingley are not Scottish yet all 3 failed and were taken over. So where does that leave your anti-Scottish beliefs.

Yet all of them could have still been bailed out in an independent England.

Yet the two great Scottish banks would not have been able to be bailed out in an independent Scotland. They were only able to be bailed out by the great English taxpayer.

So where does that leave your anti-English, pro-Scottish independence beliefs?

Alex Salmond caused the failure of RBS - I've heard it all now!

He helped to cause the crash of RBS when he cheered that very popular Scot by the name of Fred Goodwin on in his takeover bid for ABN Amro, the deal that caused the bank to crash.

Salmond must shoulder some of the blame for that. I wouldn't hold my breath, though. He's Scottish, so he'll refuse to admit that he and his fellow countrymen had anything to do with the crash of RBS and just blame it all on the English.