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Old 3rd August 2004, 15:53
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We are all entitled to our individual opinions. Heathen's opinion is just that, an individual's opinion.
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Old 3rd August 2004, 22:15
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heathen,how in the hell do you have american friends?

what do you think the UK goverment would do if a plane was crashed into big ben? and wouldnt that cause much fear and paranoia among you?
its a sad thing what terrorists do,they cause fear and death,I want it to stop but people dont really seem to care about it.
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Old 4th August 2004, 08:41
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First off, Big Ben is a bell in a clock tower. At most, a plane crash would kill the people on the plane and, in exceptional circumstances, some old guy who was winding the clock mechanism. Not exactly the same as a couple of tower blocks full of people, is it?

Next, can you say "Irish Republican Army"? The government and people of the UK have been subjected to, and have dealt with, terrorism (up to and including the murder of members of the cabinet) for decades. When someone from outside the UK starts saying things like "you'd feel different if the terrorists had attacked you" I know that that person hasn't even bothered to learn a few basic facts about the world we live in.
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Old 4th August 2004, 10:19
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Interesting Op. Ed. piece in today's Herald. http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/21260.html
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Old 4th August 2004, 12:31
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BEING RIGHT WING FASCISTS IS WHAT GOT YOUR COUNTRY ATTACKED IN THE FIRST PLACE FOXX.
Really?

In 1993 the first Jihadist terrorist strike on American soil was done by truck bomb at the WTC.

If memory serves correct, Bill Clinton was President and both houses of Congress were controlled by the Democrats who were very left wing.

Hmmm? I won't mention the numerous others attacks in the 1990s like the USS Cole.

What was the response of the Clinton Administration? The matter was handled as a law enforcement issue and the Clintonites allowed Al-Qaeda to openly train in Afhganistan and other places with the end result of 9/11.

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Old 4th August 2004, 12:48
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First off, Big Ben is a bell in a clock tower. At most, a plane crash would kill the people on the plane and, in exceptional circumstances, some old guy who was winding the clock mechanism. Not exactly the same as a couple of tower blocks full of people, is it?

Next, can you say "Irish Republican Army"? The government and people of the UK have been subjected to, and have dealt with, terrorism (up to and including the murder of members of the cabinet) for decades. When someone from outside the UK starts saying things like "you'd feel different if the terrorists had attacked you" I know that that person hasn't even bothered to learn a few basic facts about the world we live in.
Speaking of the IRA terrorists -- they do seem to have failed in their goal of uniting Northern Ireland with the Irish Republic by means of violence.

In fact, the more bombings and assassinations, the more determined the opposition to Irish republicanism became until finally the IRA threw in the towel.

The main lesson that many Americans draw from "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland which lasted 30 years this last time around is to dig in your heels and support the anti-terrorism activities of the police and army, and depend on the common sense of the people under attack by the terrorists to resist until the terrorists lay down their arms.

A point made well in a recent movie, "The Boxer" where a former IRA terrorist opts for peace after a 15 year prison sentence.

BTW, the British military did not attack the Irish Republic because that government attempted to suppress the IRA. I think the British military would have invaded Eire to crush the IRA had not the Irish government attempted to do the job for them.
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Old 4th August 2004, 12:48
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Interesting article, Neil.
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