Stop the British Civil War 2007. Solve Institutional Racism

[gustard]

Originally Posted by Babz

Is that a new Scottish dialect I have never seen before....lol

I have to practise otherwise ill forget

[PRgirl]

Originally Posted by gustard

jajaja no te rabias la verdad te voy a responder en serio mas tarde pero ahorita estoy comiendo en el jardin y disfrutando el sol que es muy raro aqui in Gran Britania !). He escrito un messaje muy largo en me laptop y luego lo voy a poner. Ojala no te molesta que te hablo en espanol pero tengo que practicar !

Gustard, si, tienes que practicar. Querias decir 'rabieta' verdad? Decir rabias es decir lo equivalente que tener la enfermedad que uno adquiere cuando un murcielago te pica y te da la enfermedad que resulta en perder la cordura mental, sufrir baboseadas y todo por el estilo--no pienso que querias implicar eso. Estabas pensando en 'tantrum' verdad? La palabra adecuada para expresar 'tantrum' en espanol, seria, 'perder los estribos', 'ataque de nervios', 'rabieta'.

Comiendo en el jardincito? Suena lo mas chevere eso. Hoy me lo pase de ama de casa, lavando ropa sucia, obligando a mi hijito limpiar su cuartito, cocinando atun con cebollitas, pimiento verde, setas, vino y todo lo demas. Me pinte las unas de los deditos de mis pies color de rosita profundo y me puse unas sandalias decoradas para estrenarlos.

Eres muy bribon Gustard. Me gusta eso.

[PRgirl]

Originally Posted by Babz

Mandarin....whats oranges got to do with it.....

You got me thinking Babz...in the island we call oranges---Chinas. We don't say 'naranjas' which is the proper word for them in Spanish. We say--jugo de china. China juice=Orange juice. Because the first oranges that came to the island in boats from Europe were of Chinese Mandarin origins. Orange colored bikinis? We say--'tanga color chinita'. Bananas are guineos from the West African country of 'Guinea'. So, what do oranges have to do with Chinese? In Puerto Rico a WHOLE lot. Lol.

Now, Gustard is afraid of losing his Spanish fluency. He wants to practice with me. Hmmm, I used to make a living from teaching Spanish to Anglophones....should I charge him? Nah, he is too sweet and a quite a character. He gets free corrections in Spanish from me for life. But, I will expect you to 'whack' me Babz everytime my semantics stray from the straight and narrow. Somehow you inspire trust in me.

Chula Babz. Eres bien chula.

Babz can you tell me how the light feels in England? I have always thought that if someone describes the light in their country one can always imagine how it feels to live there. For example in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado the light is bright and dry, with a strong and clean clear crispiness to it all. When I go to the Mountains--I get the feeling human beings were never meant to civilize that part of the world or build cities there, it is inappropriate somehow. The air is thin and moving is a study in endurance and effort.

Puerto Rico is so different--the air is moist and warm, like if you are living inside a womb. And the light is so YELLOW and reflective. The plants have PERSONALITIES in the tropics, and everything is made to stimulate the senses. Strong smells, strong colors, and everything is made to be with very little clothing or no clothing. Everything has sound and movement. The cities are not the star in that island--the natural world is. The sun and the sea and the plants and the humidity--with the softest most gentle of breezes filled with clean sea air flowing in, to break the stifling sunshine that is both absolutely charming and also very imposing. The light almost sparkles there like a gold coin.

I wonder how the sunlight is in your neck of the woods Babz?

[craig_bell]

Originally Posted by PRgirl

Craig, a long time ago I told this forum that in terms of the history of Scotland, Wales, Ireland and England ....... But, I got enlightened. That is the job of the true Scots on this website...enlighten all these iggnerent foreigners about what being Scottish is about and what the differences are between myths and reality. I am confident you Scottish posters who live there can do the job well.

If you know sweet FA about it then why bother trying to give your ill-informed opinion? Do you not think that this kind of behaviour gives other members a negative opinion of you and your "debating" skills?

[gustard]

Originally Posted by PRgirl

Gustard, si, tienes que practicar. Querias decir 'rabieta' verdad? Decir rabias es decir lo equivalente que tener la enfermedad que uno adquiere cuando un murcielago te pica y te da la enfermedad que resulta en perder la cordura mental, sufrir baboseadas y todo por el estilo--no pienso que querias implicar eso. Estabas pensando en 'tantrum' verdad? La palabra adecuada para expresar 'tantrum' en espanol, seria, 'perder los estribos', 'ataque de nervios', 'rabieta'.

Comiendo en el jardincito? Suena lo mas chevere eso. Hoy me lo pase de ama de casa, lavando ropa sucia, obligando a mi hijito limpiar su cuartito, cocinando atun con cebollitas, pimiento verde, setas, vino y todo lo demas. Me pinte las unas de los deditos de mis pies color de rosita profundo y me puse unas sandalias decoradas para estrenarlos.

Eres muy bribon Gustard. Me gusta eso.

jaja eso es que piensas tu pero ya te voy a ensenar un poco de de espanol ! (disculpa eso es me humor pero como ya tengo un Peruano que esta aqui 2 anos y ya quiere ensenar me ingles creo tengo derecho jeje). En Peru "no te rabias " es una frase bien común que utilisan todo la gente (majormente de la selva ). "Rabiando" quiere decir una mujer o hombre que que esta enojado como un perro loco que tiene rabia ! Asi que en la selva de peru donde apprendi me castelliano hablan un dialecto de espanol asta que a veces los espanoles y las charrapas (gente de la selva) no se entienden. Hay muchas pallabras Charrapas que no utilisan en otras partes de Peru - pejor latin america o espana.
Me debilidad es me calligraphia porque estoy accustumbrado hablar espanol pero casi nunca lo escribo.
Bueno Senora tu me puedes coregir pero sin jodiendo jaja De repente puedo corregir tu Ingles tsmbien pero la verdad no he vista ningun error todavia - no te preocupes - voy a buscar

Pero dime - que es Bribon ? eso no hay in Peru , hay cahudo , doido, pero nuca escuche Bribon.....

[PRgirl]

Originally Posted by craig_bell

If you know sweet FA about it then why bother trying to give your ill-informed opinion? Do you not think that this kind of behaviour gives other members a negative opinion of you and your "debating" skills?

Mr Craig, if this thread was about the fine details between British and English vs Scottish etc. I would not have been interested. This thread was about institutionalized racism--of which I have studied and experienced in the past and of which I am interested in. Ill-informed opinion about institutionalized racism? So far what is yours on this subject? I told the poster who started this thread that as far as I knew about the UK the laws were not condoning racism in its 'institutions' am I wrong? Is the UK like pre-ANC South Africa then and I am wrong about that? What is your beef with me? I don't think being ignorant about what the definition of British is equates not knowing what institutionalized racism means? Do you?

Probably your beef with me is that you don't like something I said such as: The reason why there are so many 'brown' people in London is because the 'white' people went to their home nations and now they are there. Or you don't like the term 'brown' people or some other beef. Be honest and say what it is you disagree with. You think people should not have an opinion on institutionalized racism? Are you 'brown' or from some little island in the Caribbean with black genes in your background with an adopted Black son living in a white majority society like I am? No? Then what do you know about racism?

Don't cover up what the cause of your 'irritation' is about. Be honest with yourself. Civil war? Well I think the UK is not exactly the UNITED kingdom it is cracked up to be. People still have resentments over what happened in their history and in the past. If they did not, none of the Scottish would have been all upset and calling it offensive. It looks like there is more racism than I first thought in the UK and it is not just against people from third world origins. There is more than meets the eye between the Scots and the English. Lol. I learned something there. My debating skills? What do you suggest I do Craig--shut up to please you? Vete pal carajo! Lol

PRgirl

[PRgirl]

Gustard, 'bribon' means a jokester, prankster, and generally a 'rascal'. I called you a rascal. Lol. It suits you.

PRgirl.