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[Mistress]

[i]Kathyv & Talon...

.. Oh no.. lol...

First I wish to say that I was under a different impression when I posted first. I assumed, without reading into it, that this was for Space Exploration... but now that I have read that artical that Talon has posted.. (Thank you for posting that BTW).. It was interesting and now I see that I am really...lol... not educated on these matters.. however they do interest me..

So these discussions regarding this space elevator is just that at this time.. "disucssions".. right? Because I assumed it was undergo already.. at least the planning on the construction.. and I am not sure if I missed it.. or not.. but it did say that this was to be considered as a project to be used to carry heavy loads into space. So do either of you know like "Carry what"? and if how we currently move things into space works, then wouldn't it be a lot of money to build something else for just this "carry" reason when the money could be of more use elsewhere?

I'm not quick.. lol... but I'm trying to learn.. Sorry for the misunderstand before.. lol

[kathyv]

I believe the long range plan for this is to eliminate the use of solid rocket boosters to launch things like the shuttle and then to rely on controlled free falls called re entry!

Heavy things would include the space shuttle as well as equipment used on mir, other possible upcoming space stations, satillites, what ever another lunar expidition would require and what ever needs for colonizing Mars and or the Moon may be lurking in the minds of those with 'plans'! LOL

As far as them being just discussions, I think the powers that be are past that. If they say it can be done they would be moving into developement. This would include things like scale models subjected to testing in controlled environments simulating atmosphere, etc...

In a way this is really exciting, I just want them to use their 'powers' for good and not political control in the world! (Flash Gordon and Captian Kirk unite?) LOL

[Talon]

[quote]originaly posted by M
It was interesting and now I see that I am really...lol... not educated on these matters.. however they do interest me..
[quote]
To be honest hon..no-one is all that educated on these matters.. it has spent such a long time on the drawing board that noone outside that circle really has much knowledge of it yet... I would imagine however with President Bush mentioning it..we will be seeing far more ideas on it emerge over the next few months...
[quote]originaly posted by M
So these discussions regarding this space elevator is just that at this time.. "disucssions".. right? ....

"Carry what"? and if how we currently move things into space works, then wouldn't it be a lot of money to build something else for just this "carry" reason when the money could be of more use elsewhere?
[quote]
Well no... like Kathy said it is way beyond disscussion stage now..and again that evidence shows itself when the President is mentioning it in one of his speaches... though you can be sure it will eventually be at least twice the cost they have projected...maybe even more... the one thing that I did find however in the articles that I have been reading was this short snippet..
[i]by Carl Hoffman April 2004
The biggest challenge: The longest nanotube ever created is just microns in length. But by combining nanotubes with an epoxy resin and then extruding the mixture like monofilament fishing line, "you can already make strands as long as you want," Physicist Brad Edwards asserts. Two other great obstacles remain: maintaining the elevator despite hurricanes, meteorites and corrosive atomic oxygen, and building the laser system.
But again like Kathy said...its not as far away as you may think...I bet within ten years they start construction on it..

and as far as how it works now....well it does not really to be honest...just think of the problems they have getting into space..the amount of fuel and some of the disasters thats happened due to that... also to launch one shuttle into space the average price is $500 million.. just for one...thats like half a billion per shuttle...so the projected costs of this is only like 10 shuttles....or maybe 20...but in the long run..it would become much cheaper... also it ultimatly allows joe public the oppertunity to travel up through the stratosphere at a vastly reduced cost
[quote]originaly posted by K
Heavy things would include the space shuttle as well as equipment used on mir, other possible upcoming space stations, satillites, what ever another lunar expidition would require and what ever needs for colonizing Mars and or the Moon may be lurking in the minds of those with 'plans'! LOL
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LOL...yes thoose with plans.... I am sure there wee minds are already exploding twith the possibilities of traffic wardens in space..lol.. and I bet Mickey D's has already got first dibs on the lunar burger bar..lol

It is exciting...lol..and it is very like the things you read in books and see on film...but if you ask me it is about time...For half a century and more films have always protrayed the new millenia in a far more futuristic state than it is in reality..lol..I thought by now we would have all had flying cars..lol

[Mistress]

Originally posted by Talon

To be honest hon..no-one is all that educated on these matters.. it has spent such a long time on the drawing board that noone outside that circle really has much knowledge of it yet... I would imagine however with President Bush mentioning it..we will be seeing far more ideas on it emerge over the next few months...

Do you really think this will advance within Months time? lol.. I think you mentioned to Kathy, more then likely it will cost double..lol.. so I'm assuming this will take longer then they are saying. However, I wouldn't mind seeing how this progresses.

I know that I may not know much at all... but I do as well feel that advancement is highly needed in our world to continue to grow.. Its just when I think of how this advancement and the cost will ultimatelly affect the way way future, It leaves me wondering why, if they can do this.. why can they not simply cure a virus? I know its two totally different topics.. but it is still all Science..[/quote]

Originally posted by Talon
Well no... like Kathy said it is way beyond disscussion stage now..and again that evidence shows itself when the President is mentioning it in one of his speaches... though you can be sure it will eventually be at least twice the cost they have projected...maybe even more... the one thing that I did find however in the articles that I have been reading was this short snippet..

by Carl Hoffman April 2004
The biggest challenge: The longest nanotube ever created is just microns in length. But by combining nanotubes with an epoxy resin and then extruding the mixture like monofilament fishing line, "you can already make strands as long as you want," Physicist Brad Edwards asserts. Two other great obstacles remain: maintaining the elevator despite hurricanes, meteorites and corrosive atomic oxygen, and building the laser system.

But again like Kathy said...its not as far away as you may think...I bet within ten years they start construction on it..

and as far as how it works now....well it does not really to be honest...just think of the problems they have getting into space..the amount of fuel and some of the disasters thats happened due to that... also to launch one shuttle into space the average price is $500 million.. just for one...thats like half a billion per shuttle...so the projected costs of this is only like 10 shuttles....or maybe 20...but in the long run..it would become much cheaper... also it ultimatly allows joe public the oppertunity to travel up through the stratosphere at a vastly reduced cost

[i]I remember a part of that Pasicic Ocean artical that said they didn't think this could be built for hundreds of years.. I guess that is what tripped me up for a moment... But then re-reading it.. and seeing how that Edwards guy figured it could.. Anyway.. I guess now, as it is being discussed with the President and all the other "Suits" that this is something that will be considered much sooner. It will be something to see, either way.. Hopefully it will be in My Life Time..lol..

I also was unaware of the cost of launching each rocket.. lol.. So in retrospect.. this in the long run seems as if it would save more money then the initial cost..

But lets hope that you are wrong with the McDonalds.. lol.. and stuff.. and Thank you for all your information

[Mistress]

Originally posted by kathyv
I believe the long range plan for this is to eliminate the use of solid rocket boosters to launch things like the shuttle and then to rely on controlled free falls called re entry!

Heavy things would include the space shuttle as well as equipment used on mir, other possible upcoming space stations, satillites, what ever another lunar expidition would require and what ever needs for colonizing Mars and or the Moon may be lurking in the minds of those with 'plans'! LOL

As far as them being just discussions, I think the powers that be are past that. If they say it can be done they would be moving into developement. This would include things like scale models subjected to testing in controlled environments simulating atmosphere, etc...

In a way this is really exciting, I just want them to use their 'powers' for good and not political control in the world! (Flash Gordon and Captian Kirk unite?) LOL

[i]lol...

It does seem as if we are headed that way.. what use to be just something to view in a movie or comic book.. seems to be all within possibility.. I wouldnt mind Meeting Kirk.. lol..

Anyway.. I wanted to Thank you for replying to me Kathy.. and I guess we shall see what the future holds.. or rather elevates ..

[Talon]

Originally posted by Mistress
Do you really think this will advance within Months time? lol.. I think you mentioned to Kathy, more then likely it will cost double..lol.. so I'm assuming this will take longer then they are saying. However, I wouldn't mind seeing how this progresses.

I know that I may not know much at all... but I do as well feel that advancement is highly needed in our world to continue to grow.. Its just when I think of how this advancement and the cost will ultimatelly affect the way way future, It leaves me wondering why, if they can do this.. why can they not simply cure a virus? I know its two totally different topics.. but it is still all Science..

what I said was that within the next few months I am sure we will begin to see the actual early plans for it emmerging... not the elevator itself... that will be probably a decade or more off into the future yet...

And this is also a subject I am a bit lost in but I am pretty sure they have already started making great progress in developing certain medical formulas in space that they could never have done down here...MIA(ISS) has a very large science and medical research center...and you can be sure that they will be working very hard on it to discover the cures we have not found down here yet... I am sure in that zero grav enviroment they will be able to harvest many things we cannot down here...so that may well one day prove to be the key to finding cures...so basically the trip to space..is about far more than just the stars..plus..it does also seem to be the only place were different nations are able to get along... and that can also only be a good thing