Casting Pearls

[AutumnReel]

Jesus, God (of the Old Testament), and the Holy Spirit...are all ONE. Everyone keeps saying that Jesus was a great prophet and it is a shame Christians didn't follow his teachings, but he and the Father are one in the same. Jesus completed the law of the Old Testament. Through Jesus we can follow the law...whereas before he died we could not. Don't you see? Jesus did not go about forgiving for nothing. He pointed out that we are all sinful...all humans. Through him we can die to our old self and live anew, with complete communion with God.

Andy-J, If only you could realize that you can come to that place of fellowship, peace and love with God here on Earth. You do not need to die many times in the cycle of life to finally reach that communion. Heaven is a place where we get to be even more close with the Father. (face to face)

J-J, The Old Testament God and the New Testament God are the same. Jesus loved the Father...he said that they were one. How could Jesus, who loved so much, be one with the Father? How could he love God? Because God, even of the Old Testament is love. He cannot look upon sin. He is a jealous God and does not wish to share us. Just as a man does not wish to share his wife with another man.

[Sapphire_M]

I really shouldn't get involved in this discussion.. I've read it all and am of the same opinion as Mamie.. but one thing has really been bothering since I read it..

Your opinion is not always right.

How can an opinion be wrong or right.. when its just an opinion? If an opinion is what someone believes .. then your telling them that what they believe to be true is wrong.. I find that completely arrogant and condesending..my opinion is just that ..mine.. do not tell me that its wrong.

[AutumnReel]

Originally posted by Sapphire_M
I really shouldn't get involved in this discussion.. I've read it all and am of the same opinion as Mamie.. but one thing has really been bothering since I read it..

Your opinion is not always right.

How can an opinion be wrong or right.. when its just an opinion? If an opinion is what someone believes .. then your telling them that what they believe to be true is wrong.. I find that completely arrogant and condesending..my opinion is just that ..mine.. do not tell me that its wrong.

I understand what you are saying. Yet, there are some things that just are true or aren't. For example, if I say that my opinion is that the grass is red...we all know that the grass is green....regardless of what I think. Is there a God? There is either yes or no. I'm only telling you about God because I know Him. I have a relationship with Him. I just don't want you to knock it before you've experienced that relationship. I don't want to upset you, so please, don't take it that way.

[Mamie]

You are merely percieving the colour of the grass. It may very well be red as not all "grass" is green. Indeed the colour of things may be a reflection rather than it's real colour as in the sky.

Your path is yours and mine is mine. Autumnreel you seem reasonable but as I said to Theja you will not convince me and I would not presume to dishonour your faith. I chose to leave Christianity and I believe I was not wrong. It is still how you live your life as an example that will allow me to honour you as a person. Do not feel you can't express your beliefs here. Some will want to listen and some won't.

[Sapphire_M]

Originally posted by AutumnReel
I understand what you are saying. Yet, there are some things that just are true or aren't. For example, if I say that my opinion is that the grass is red...we all know that the grass is green....regardless of what I think.

Actually we percieve that the grass is green.. the sky is blue ect..

Is there a God? There is either yes or no.

Well why can't there be a maybe? Its not as black and white as you seem to want to make it. There is alot of grey area.. and alot of people live in this grey area.. and that doesn't make them wrong or inferior. Its their choice. And their choice is as valid as yours.

I'm only telling you about God because I know Him. I have a relationship with Him. I just don't want you to knock it before you've experienced that relationship. I don't want to upset you, so please, don't take it that way.

Ah see but you are assuming that I have no experience in your path because I choose not to follow it, I do.. and as I said I choose not to follow it.

I am very happy that you have your relationship with your god .. just please don't invalidate my relationship with my gods & goddess. I respect your faith, I may not agree with it but I still repect it and all I am asking is that you repect mine.

Oh and you haven't upset me

[Mamie]

applause for Saph.

[AutumnReel]

Sapphire_M,
I am not trying to convince you. And actually, I did think that you have experience with Christianity. Most of the people that do not accept Christ have had that experience. Have you ever truly had a relationship with Christ? Now, that I would have to doubt. As far as there being grey area's, perhaps I did not explain myself well enough.

"The law of non-contradiction is the foundation for all logical thinking. It is known by a couple different names: the law of contradiction, and the law of non-contradiction. No matter what you call it, this law is absolutely inviolable. The law may be defined as follows: a statement cannot be true and not true at the same time and in the same respect. For example: It cannot be both raining and not raining at the same time and in the same respect. It could have been raining yesterday, but not today. Or, it could be raining where I live but not where you live. But it cannot be both raining and not raining at the same time and in the same place.

The law of non-contradiction is a very useful tool in helping to arrive at the truth regarding which worldview has more validity. For those familiar with the conflicting doctrines of the major world religions, it is rather apparent that they cannot all be true. Some are pantheistic, some are polytheistic, and still others are monotheistic.

Some teach a personal God, while others teach an impersonal one. Now it follows that if there is only one God -- if monotheism is true -- then all religions that teach polytheism and pantheism must then of necessity be false. And if it is true that God is a personal God, then all religions that teach an impersonal God must be false."

If you want more information go to:
http://www.gospeloutreach.net/whychristianity.html