a new religion?

[such-is-life]

OK, let me just say that i am not serious about starting a new 'religion'. I do not think it is possible to have a religion with no beliefs or principles.

Even if i was to start a 'movement'it would be a cult and not a religion, as mentioned in the above post, which is somewhat true read both ways (although 'religion' status could be achieved in court).

With regards to Anneli's post, i do believe that people should be free to believe in whatever they want, but my piont is that this is not achieved as parents force their views on their children. I also agree with karl marx's view that "religion is the opium of the masses" and i think that this is a good thing (unlike marx), as generally the masses aren't too intelligent and need faith to govern their lives. However, i do not desire/need other people to respect me as if i did have a cult/religion i would certainly not dictate people's lives (hence no rules) as isee other religions doing. I do respect other people's beliefs as even most of my relatives are christians. I view all people the same regardless of religion or race. I am interrested by your last statement, Anelli. Does this mean that you think that it would not be possible for you to share ideas and beliefs with anyone else at all? Or even if you found a group which shared your views you would not join as a matter of principle?

I apologise Anneli, i thought i had seen you at russia.com, but i was obviously mistaken, forgive me. I think that it is good that you tolerate and enjoy other cultures and am sorry if i gave any impression otherwise.

With regard to tireguy's post, i find it somewhat amusing that you dispel my views as dictatorial and then go on to state your own as if they are the law of the land. I also wonder why you say "try to ignore god", as i do not acknowldge that god exists so what do i have to ignore? I know for sure that you do not know anything about marilyn manson and are basing your ideas on him through assumptions from his image. I wonder what you know about satanism? , for example, as Mr. manson is one of them. If you actually took the time to read his views and listen to him speak you might realise that he is very intelligent, much more so than you or i, of that i have no doubt. Also, i would rather that 'god' himself would tell me that he loves me rather than you, and when he does i shall surely love him back. "give him another try", may i ask what exactly you mean? Pray to him and accept his existence and love him and then my life will be better? May i suggest that you look at the realities of life and re-assess your somewhat hypocritical outlook.

Thank You.

[such-is-life]

such-is-life Since, in this busy world, people like easy options, here is a nice religion-by-numbers site! Fun! Oddly not far wrong either!


http://www.selectsmart.com/PRO/beliefnet/index6.html





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Ceylan, thanks for the site,

I like, it's cool. Good to know my views are 12% compatible with roman catholicism.

[Celyn]

Originally posted by such-is-life
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http://www.selectsmart.com/PRO/beliefnet/index6.html

I like, it's cool. Good to know my views are 12% compatible with roman catholicism.

LOL - well it is fun, isn't it? I'm glad you liked it! But, despite the apparent flippancy, it does of course function as a repository of a lot of links to serious sites on many religions, so, the more information, the better, I tend to feel.

[TireGuy]

Originally posted by such-is-life
...With regard to tireguy's post, i find it somewhat amusing that you dispel my views as dictatorial and then go on to state your own as if they are the law of the land. I also wonder why you say "try to ignore god", as i do not acknowldge that god exists so what do i have to ignore? I know for sure that you do not know anything about marilyn manson and are basing your ideas on him through assumptions from his image. I wonder what you know about satanism? , for example, as Mr. manson is one of them. If you actually took the time to read his views and listen to him speak you might realise that he is very intelligent, much more so than you or i, of that i have no doubt. Also, i would rather that 'god' himself would tell me that he loves me rather than you, and when he does i shall surely love him back. "give him another try", may i ask what exactly you mean? Pray to him and accept his existence and love him and then my life will be better? May i suggest that you look at the realities of life and re-assess your somewhat hypocritical outlook.

Thank You.

Such-is-life
You make some good points. You are right, I know next to nothing about Mr. Manson. I guess I just don't like what I hear about him in the media. I jumped the gun on that.

I've been looking at the realities of life all of my 42 years. I have a firm grip on reality. I don't like to be thought of as a hypocrite. I must have come on too strong. You see, I'm way past believing and well into knowing. But you push back, so I'll keep views from you.

But tell me, if you don't believe in God, why are you in this religious forum?

[anneli]

I am interrested by your last statement, Anelli. Does this mean that you think that it would not be possible for you to share ideas and beliefs with anyone else at all? Or even if you found a group which shared your views you would not join as a matter of principle?

Such-is-life:

I didn´t mean that I´m not able to share other people ideas or beliefs.
I´m very interested in other people´s opinion and if I agress with them I also adopt them.
I am/was in some groups with my opinions and I really enjoy/ed that!

If I was religious I certainly would be in a christian youth group or something but what I meant was that I wouln´t like to be in a group which rules and principles I do not fully regard as mine. Do you know what I mean?

Don´t mind at the Russian.com thing...

Anneli

[such-is-life]

Celyn - i agree, knowledge is important.


Anneli - i think i do know what you mean, you were referring to religion when you said "i wouldn't like to join....for i love my independence.." as not all of your views are compatibable with any religions.


Tireguy - firstly i must apologise for stating that you are a hypocrite, for i do not believe you are (as i should not base any preconceptions on one post), it was just that your post seemed somewhat personally critical (of me) when surely everyone is entitled to their opinion, regardless of anyone's disagreement towards it.
Also, i don't think you should place so much trust in the media. It is governed by money, plus people like Mr. Manson use the media to stir up feelings/emotions in people like yourself. It is more than likely that Mr. Manson wants you (and all christians) to feel the way you do about him. Would it not be more appropriate for you to dismiss Mr.Manson and his like rather than get worked up about him? For instance, why must the catholic church declare 'war' on Mr. Manson when surely this only gives him more publicity, and more to the point, shou;dn't the catholic church have more important issues to deal with? (by referring to this, i am not assuming you are a catholic or share the catholic church's view on Mr. Manson, but as a christian i hope you might have answers)

With regards to your question "if you do not believe in god, why are you in this religious forum?" i like to participate in this forum beacause i believe i am open-minded and so am looking for answers to my questions on religion. Just because i do not believe in god just now does not mean that i might not believe later. Perhaps i am looking for an intelligent religious person to convince me that i am wrong, or maybe i just like participating in constructive arguments on this topic.

Thank you.

[TireGuy]

Hey Such-is-life,
Nicely put. In my on going desire to be close to God, I can be narrow-minded.
And I am Catholic. Right again. But, I consider myself Christian first and Catholic second. I don't blindly follow everything that comes from the Catholic Church. Even as a child, I didn't understand how the church could change their views on things, such as divorce, etc. I figured what is right is right and doesn't change. This showed me the church is not infallible.
Thanks for the response.