Originally posted by stranger
That is new for me...
I think hell is definity exist and sinner will get there punishments. But we know what the sins are but we can not know who is the sinner and not as that what Allah has to decide...
What you say mr Andy that there is no life after death ????
Is that what christian think ??? No hell and no heavan..
as if no one get judge by Allah then ofcourse hell/heaven has not eixistance ???
Originally posted by ANDY-J
Look at the world around you and you will see the workings of God in every living thing.For every action there is a consequence and human beings as free thinking creatures are responsible for the consequence of every action.In the bible it states'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.And karma decrees that what you do unto others you will experience either in this life or a future reincarnation.
Why would God want to punish anyone who sins?Why would he want to reward anyone for adhering to the laws which he has created?I believe in a God which is all loving and all forgiving.Free will is the greatest gift which God gives to humans and having given free will it would be a great wrong to intervene in human existence.Thus I do not believe in a divine will which influences mankind's actions.Hell and heaven are not places which exist in the afterlife.If you cause pain in this life then your 'hell'will be a future reincarnation in which you will face the consequences of your actions.Some spirits which Buddhists term boddhisatvas deliberately choose to suffer in life in order to help others.In the period before you reincarnate you may exist in some form of afterlife.If you think you deserve to experience heavenly bliss then this is what I believe you will experience.Thought is everything.Materialism is the true illusion.But this will only be a fools paradise as true heaven can only be achieved when the trappings of materialism are discarded and the human spirit achieves a union with God.Not only do I believe in life after death I believe that many people have experienced life prior to this incarnation.Life is eternal and no one,no matter how wicked is beyond redemption.Free choice,not God's will governs all existence.All religions are conveying the same message.Everyone is involved in the same journey towards spiritual enlightenment regardless of whether they are muslim,christian or Jew.In Zen Bhuddhism there is a saying that'words are used to convey meaning.We should keep the meaning and forget the words.'When it comes to religion I think it is always wiser to search for the true message that is being conveyed rather than adhere to often misguided dogma.