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Old 29th December 2013, 22:23
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Shame

Far too many believers are feeling dirty, worthless and ashamed of themselves; shame is a silent, but deadly disease that pollutes the lifeblood of many believers faith. As a result, we feel unclean and therefore unworthy to approach God and have the living and intimate relationship that he wants to have with us. Shame prevents us from intimacy with God because it makes us feel unworthy and distant from him. God’s standard is nothing less than perfection and none of us measure up, if we did or we ever could measure up sufficiently righteous for heaven through our performance, we would not have needed a savior at all. For it is God’s grace, not our striving, that makes us accepted and acceptable. It is God’s performance through Jesus Christ, not our trying hard to perform, that eradicates our shame. Some of us spend most of our life giving up. We are tired, burned out, disillusioned, depressed, addicted to something. People around us feel frustrated by the huge disparity between our capabilities and our performance. They either pep talk us concerning our value, or shame us for not performing. No one can have a close relationship with us; we push people away physically and emotionally, and push God away. We are the ones in families, churches, and society that people take care of-for a while, until we are given up on because of our lack of response. For all the performance-based people around us, we are simply bad for public relations. Once in a while we find ourselves in an environment that shames us for being so defective, then we start trying harder, but it does not last for long, we are simply out of gas to start with, we merely survive.

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Old 4th January 2014, 16:50
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Shame diminishes with the supply of alcohol to the citizens.
Where is moral leadership?

Families are destroyed by this drug, yet it is legal and
has been coming to us, as an example from royalty, for thousands
of years.

Religion will not help where shame is concerned.
The oulawing of alcohol will restore shame and pride
to the citizens, and set good examples to the children
as a result.
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Old 6th January 2014, 09:05
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good ol Christian guilt eh


try leaving the 1st century once in a while and your misplaced guilt trip will slowly disappear
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Old 7th January 2014, 05:01
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good ol Christian guilt eh


try leaving the 1st century once in a while and your misplaced guilt trip will slowly disappear
Good suggestion Tig -- but it seems that so many people enjoy the guilt trip journey.
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Old 8th January 2014, 11:43
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Money can buy happiness - or at least relieve guilt !

I remember on the entrance wall of a big RC church in Batangas City, Philippines, l saw a big board with a long indulgence list, complete with price for each. It's a win-win for church and sinner !
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Old 9th January 2014, 21:38
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Original sin is a doctrine which pro-actively encourages shame and feelings of guilt - given that it is a cornerstone of Christian belief I think it's a bit pointless to complain about Christians feeling shame.
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Old 11th January 2014, 11:15
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just as pointless as feeling guilty for something that happened thousands of years ago Andy.

i get your point tho
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