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Old 1st October 2000, 17:32
WAKE_UP_CALL WAKE_UP_CALL is offline
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Who is the doing this?

1.US....belonged to native red indians
2.Australia....belonged to aborigines
3.Israel....given to Jews after ww2.
4.India....divided by religion and nationality, i.e.creation of India,Pakistan, Bangladesh.
5.Kashmir...muslim majority.British ignore.
6.South Africa....British and Netherlands create apartheid state.
7.Turkey....US forces in strategic place between Europe and Middle East.
8.Germany....British air base in central Europe.
9.Saudia Arabia...US air base, protection in return for low price of oil and higher production export.
10.Yugoslavia...broken up due to threat in Eastern Europe.
11.Argentina....Falklands remains with British, key position in South America.
12.Spain....Gibraltar not offered democracy to be independent.
13.USSR...broken up due to threat of communism.
14.Zimbabwe...Brirish take over land,i.e. farms.
15.Cyprus.....British colony divided by Greece and Turkey.


Who runs the world bodies and international trade and finace.

1.UN....based in US and run by them.
2.WorldBank...carries out project in third world countries in return for natural resources for the US.
3.IMF...run by US to make sure third world countries remain in a permanant cycle of debt.
4.EU...European expansion to promote capitalism by increasing market.
5.US...are in how many trade org.'s?
6.EU and US ...dump thousand of products each year so that price remains high in Europe.While the third world starves to death.
7.US+UK...countries exploit child labour in South East Asia.
8.Current battles in Western African nations due to British companies want to gain access to diamond mines.
9.US...has imposed economic sanctions (via UN)on these countries Iran,Iraq,Cuba,North Korea,Vietnam,Yugoslavia etc.

What are your views?
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Old 1st October 2000, 22:23
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Well my view is that I don't think this one belongs in Religion.

If you would like to tell me (Us) why you think it does I (We) would be happy to listen

Janet
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Old 2nd October 2000, 02:25
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Originally posted by WAKE UP CALL:
Who is the doing this?

1.US....belonged to native red indians
2.Australia....belonged to aborigines
3.Israel....given to Jews after ww2.
4.India....divided by religion and nationality, i.e.creation of India,Pakistan, Bangladesh.
5.Kashmir...muslim majority.British ignore.
6.South Africa....British and Netherlands create apartheid state.
7.Turkey....US forces in strategic place between Europe and Middle East.
8.Germany....British air base in central Europe.
9.Saudia Arabia...US air base, protection in return for low price of oil and higher production export.
10.Yugoslavia...broken up due to threat in Eastern Europe.
11.Argentina....Falklands remains with British, key position in South America.
12.Spain....Gibraltar not offered democracy to be independent.
13.USSR...broken up due to threat of communism.
14.Zimbabwe...Brirish take over land,i.e. farms.
15.Cyprus.....British colony divided by Greece and Turkey.


Who runs the world bodies and international trade and finace.

1.UN....based in US and run by them.
2.WorldBank...carries out project in third world countries in return for natural resources for the US.
3.IMF...run by US to make sure third world countries remain in a permanant cycle of debt.
4.EU...European expansion to promote capitalism by increasing market.
5.US...are in how many trade org.'s?
6.EU and US ...dump thousand of products each year so that price remains high in Europe.While the third world starves to death.
7.US+UK...countries exploit child labour in South East Asia.
8.Current battles in Western African nations due to British companies want to gain access to diamond mines.
9.US...has imposed economic sanctions (via UN)on these countries Iran,Iraq,Cuba,North Korea,Vietnam,Yugoslavia etc.

What are your views?
How come you didn't mention OPEC? Or is there a reason it should not be included? Are we simply having a limited discussion here.



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Old 2nd October 2000, 05:42
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Goose, you lost me. But that is easy when it comes to these matters. But as I see it, Opec merely manipulates policies already set in motion by the dirty capitalist pigs. And they are quite adept at it. Peace
Nope I think you both lost me on this one because I fail to see how religion fits into it.

Oh well C'est la vie or was la guerre? Hm! not sure which is appropriate here.


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Old 3rd October 2000, 04:18
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R. W. Emerson use to confuse me too. That was until I realized he was a Buddhist heart and soul. Peace

[This message has been edited by Nonson (edited 02 October 2000).]
I don't think the topic has anything to do with what R.W. Emerson thought or believed. Perhaps you can enlighten us on how it relates I would be glad to hear your thoughts on the subject.


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Old 3rd October 2000, 06:33
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Goose, I try not to Christianize knowledge. It is something I leave to the theologians who have not the desire to practice Christian virtues. Now, being the transcendentalist that he was, Emerson was forever seeking to transmute general knowledge into religious wisdom-an art he learned from studying Hunduism and Buddhism. It is all so obvious in his works on Dualism and the master piece, Self-Reliance. Peace
I personally feel that Nature was his masterpiece myself. Do you not think it relates here more appropriately?

On one hand we have a poster generelazing historics events and claiming they are a Western plot, discrediting the ideals of many for one sole means to achieve some sort of power or domination. To cloud the truth and to lead others farther from the truth. Or do you believe there are other motives beyond his post?

I am still awaiting his answer as you can see and I suspect many others would like to hear how he perceives the correlation of all these events.

Right now he has clouded the picture to an extent that I doubt only a fanatic could begin to comprehend the reality of what he has posted.


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Old 3rd October 2000, 23:04
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Let me try an explanation closer to home as a means of illustrating his viewpoint. _____________________________________________ For a number of years now, America has been going through a vicious and soul destroying cultural war. The official name for it is Political Correctness and it shakes out as multiculturalism. What it is in essence is Marxism takened from the economic and applied to the social. It is an all-out attack on every aspect of Judeo-Christian (Western) cultural. The result is the turning of the whole country into a cultural sewer wherein there are no longer any truths as I knew growing up. America has been destroyed, and the country is verging on a collaspe of gigantic proportions. It will happen within a few years. Millions of people see it coming and are scared to death. Wake Up is but one person sounding the alarm. He/she realizes that the fall will have deadly global consequences. I hope I'm halfway clear on this. Peace
Ah! That old story I remember from twenty years ago. People still are arguing that. Guess I'll do my shopping elsewhere.

Nice thing about Capitalism Is I get my choice of places to shop.


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