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Old 11th October 2000, 21:51
maureen maureen is offline
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One of the things that also should be considered is that an abortion can be as a
result of medical,physical & psychological reasons,also the life may not be viable.
This is an emotive subject and not one that just concerns women.
I agree with Maggie whole heartedly individual circumstances have to be considered.
The issue of choice is often replaced by issues of ability for women who have abortions.
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Old 13th October 2000, 08:48
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Hi Wake Up
thanks for the questions - it's nice not to be bombarded with abuse

regarding the idea of the "child's" choice - you say they are denyed the personal choice of life, but i do not believe that they either choose to live or die.

also, and sorry i realise from your position this will sound incredibly cold hearted but, i do not think of a fetus in the early stages of pregnancy as a 'child'

i know there is not agreement about when 'a bundle of cells' becomes a human life, and i don't know myself what the answer is, but i do know that as far as the fetus's brain development goes it is very primitive - certainly not capable of any kind of thought or emotion

i don't totally agree with your comments about the only people benefiting from choice are the wealthy - especially as far as abortion goes

also, regarding choice generally, i would certainly prefer to be poor in a western democracy than anywhere else - although i realise that the 'wonders' of western democracy are over-rated
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Old 16th October 2000, 17:18
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1) Abortion - I'm a mom and children are very precious. I think that if a child is unwanted, it should be given up for adoption. I don't think it should be illegal, though, because then women would resort to using a hanger or some other dangerous means to do it.

2) Choosing the sex of a baby - no reason really, I just think that you should let nature take it's course on something like that.

3) Tobacco advertising - I'm a smoker, but I don't think it should be pushed. However, advertising in no way made me start, it was more like peer pressure.

4) Gays and Lesbians - I don't care if someone is gay or not.

5) Breast implants - How is that immoral? It's just like any other plastic surgery. Being a woman who doesn't have much in that department, I had thought about doing it in the past, but it's definitely not safe. I have come to terms with what I have and it doesn't bother me anymore.
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Old 17th October 2000, 19:49
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Originally posted by dawnw:
1) Abortion - I'm a mom and children are very precious. I think that if a child is unwanted, it should be given up for adoption. I don't think it should be illegal, though, because then women would resort to using a hanger or some other dangerous means to do it.

2) Choosing the sex of a baby - no reason really, I just think that you should let nature take it's course on something like that.

3) Tobacco advertising - I'm a smoker, but I don't think it should be pushed. However, advertising in no way made me start, it was more like peer pressure.

4) Gays and Lesbians - I don't care if someone is gay or not.

5) Breast implants - How is that immoral? It's just like any other plastic surgery. Being a woman who doesn't have much in that department, I had thought about doing it in the past, but it's definitely not safe. I have come to terms with what I have and it doesn't bother me anymore.
If you are saying nature should take its course rather than choosing the sex of your baby.Then is homosexuality etc natural?

And DownW to have the view that it does not concern you is very narrow minded.
As a parent, you know that when children are growing up and are seeking to learn, what will you tell them about the above immorality issues.You cannot ignore them or be dismissive?

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Old 18th October 2000, 06:47
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Originally posted by Nonson:
Wake Up, the phrase should read, ARBITRARY FEMME NAZI OPINION. The real females don't come here anymore, in that they fully recognize the apraxia of the pseudo-fems already here. Peace
It is evident by the previous post that misanthropic, prejudiced, (and most likely impotent), males would love to jurisdict over the very bodies that they obviously hold in disdain so much.

Rather frightening, isn't it?
(BTW, why are the males who impregnate these females never held accountable? I haven't seen any discussion yet on that. Is it just that females "entice" these poor victims to such an extent that resposibilty lies 100% with the woman only? Or....is she just left as the one and only "responsible" party?)

(PS; Rush Limbaugh "groupies" need not respond...the rhetoric is tiresome and inane and simply does not apply to reality in the least.)
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Old 18th October 2000, 15:51
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Willy,

I know a lady who's daughter had a baby at the age of 15 years old. As soon as the teenage mother and child were released from the hospital, this lady took the baby to the boy's mother and said "Congratulations, you are now the proud grandmother and caretaker of a new grandson. See ya !"
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Old 20th October 2000, 01:43
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Yes I think homosexuality is natural. Do you honestly think that people would choose to be scorned by others and in some cases disowned by their families?! I think that bisexuality is a choice, but not homosexuality. You're the one who's narrow minded for thinking that everyone should be just like you.

About my kids; my 14 year old daughter came into the room as I was reading this and without giving her my opinions, I went to your first post and asked her if she thought those things were immoral. She answered pretty much the same way that I did. The only one she thought was wrong was abortion. She said that she would never do any of those things, but they weren't necessarily immoral. These aren't issues that we've discussed before, she has her own views and they just happen to be similar to mine.
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