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Old 26th October 2000, 01:45
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Are there any Deists aboard? It would be
interesting to find out how many of you
believe in God but not the bible.

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Old 26th October 2000, 01:56
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walmac, Is that the definition of a Deist, one who believes in God, but not the Bible?
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Old 26th October 2000, 02:56
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Well Sandy, my only knowledge of Deism
is what I've read in Thomas Paine's book
"The Age of Reason." He believed in a
God of moral truth, and not a God of mystery
or obscurity. He went to great lengths to
disprove the bible as the word of God and
was severely chastized for his views. Deists
believe that the word of God is found in the
beauty that surrounds us - his works of creation. It's the only religion not
invented. If there was an Adam, he surely
must have been a Deist. I'm not a preacher
or missionary - I just wonder why more
people don't accept these simple facts.

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Old 27th October 2000, 04:31
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I once told a lady that I did not believe in a Satan or a hell. She told me that I could not believe in God then, that one has to believe in Satan if they are to believe in God. This is a normal Christian lady that said this to me.

People don't have a clue ! And, it is not my duty to enlighten them ! I refuse to do it ! I refuse to waste my breath on teaching them....the burden is on them...it's their soul, not mine!

Deism, how simple. A religion without pain, guilt, and built-in terror.

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Old 29th October 2000, 06:22
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I believe the problem here is that most people look for universal answers to beliefs when they should be looking inward instead of outward.

Controlling the balance between your emotional, physical and spiritual selves is the key in maximizing each day of your life. It will also determine how smooth the road is that you travel.

Sure you can look at the world around you to find strength and guidance. You can also look to others for the same things but if you can't look into your inner self you will constantly be side tracked by those outside pressures.

Understanding your spiritual self starts within you and then it reflects on others without having to say a thing.

Our environment is secondary and often we have little control over it, but you certainly have the ability to change your own spirituality.

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Old 29th October 2000, 18:40
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And I suppose you feel there is no room for philosophy in the study of religion. Is it not an ism. Funny you brought the antagonists into the argument.

Hm! Think its time to put another log on the fire, its shrunken heads for dinner again.



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Old 29th October 2000, 23:53
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Nonson,

You see yourself as an antagonist, but to be an antagonist you need to have beliefs. You failed several times to tell us your beliefs except some babbling about Borgs which I assume to be from some science fiction fantasy you are caught up in. So if you have no beliefs you cannot be an antagonist therefore you can add very little too a discussion of the philosophy of religion. You should be merely observing and not participating until you can formulate some theorys or logic of your own.


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