Witchery Do, Witchery Don't - Paganism & Scots.

[Celto]

Kevin,

Maybe I have misunderstood you. Here is what I am aware of from my studies:

St. Patrick's education is very sketchy. We don't really know who educated him. But we do know his theology was very Celtic in origin. For example, read his "Confession of faith, Patrick." Yes, Patrick did not bring Christianity to Ireland, it was already there and it was very Celtic in nature. So much so that Rome condemned it. No, he did not persecute the Celtic Church, he embraced it, and he was a part of it.

The Culdees was a purely Irish movement and Druidic in nature---meaning it was Celtic. And the word Celtic goes a long way back in ancient history, way before Caesar, to describe a people of origin:

Keltoi,oi,celts, Hdet,2.33,X.HG7.I.20.Plb.I.13.4:--later Keltai, Str.4.I.I, etc.:--hence Keltikos, n, ov, Celtic, Gallic, Id.3.I.3:--poet. Keltos, n,ov, Call.Del.173:--fem Keltis, idos, AP10.21 (Phld.); n keltika the country of the Celts or Gual, Arist.HA606,b 4, Str.4.I.I; n Keltia Foed.ap.Plb.7.9.6.

As you can see, Herodotus of Halicarnassus (490-c. 425 B.C) and well as others used it prior to Caesar (Merchant form Phocis--600 B.C.)to speak of Keltoi people.

Was the Celtic faith suppressed? "Yes", destroyed, "No!" Scotland lives forever!

Celto

[KevinBarclay-Jay]

yes but they were refering to a single tribe in Gaul, not all the tribes in Gaul. The Keltoi are listed along with the Belgae as some of the many tribes of Gaul. These peoples where never called Celts as a group title. The word Celts to describe the Inhabitants of North and Western Europe from 1500BC to 650AD was coined during the Druidic rebirth in the 16/17th Century and during the 19th century was adobted by the "celtic Rennaisance" of men like Yeates and has now become the byword for all discussions about the peoples of this period, often blurring the difference between things such as Celtic artwork, anglo-saxon and viking artwork. A lot of what is sold as Celtic jewellry and artwork is from a later period and of anglo saxon origin.

[Celto]

Kevin,

The linguistic and historical quotes given, if you will look at them closely, if you can read Greek, refer to several Diaspora tribes. And if you will look at the dates given you will also notice that the Celts were around for a lot longer time then what you mentioned and they were referred to as Kelts. Were they referred to as a group? You may be right in your reference; however, during this time periods, tribes were never looked upon as a group but as a culture. For this reason, when the Greeks referred to this Diaspora, they classified them by their culture. So there we may be getting a little picky with words. Still, I believe we would make a major mistake by saying there were no groups of people called "Keltoi." As one can see from my former statement, linguistically and historical, the evidence says differently. Of course, I could be mistaken in how I have read the evidence. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed (smile).

Celto