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Old 11th May 2000, 20:36
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Yep, Becca, I know what you mean. I got scared of the bible when Abraham killed his son because he heard voices. My bible had a picture of the deed and I was sufficiently traumatised. I had a catholic upbringing though, I think trauma is part of the deal with that.
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Old 13th May 2000, 19:09
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Well if Adam had not sinned then what?? Where would we all be? Would we be here or not?

LOL Certain questions are fun.

Blaming the woman. LOL well Eve messed up and led poor Adam to his downfall, but then he didnt have to partake now did he? He must have known that Eve would have been gone from him if he had not eaten as well. This is just reasoning my part but Adam must have loved Eve a great deal to fall willingly as he did.

Just my opinion

Jellibean:

Actually Abraham never killed his son and as for the children, well if Adam and Eve stopped at just Cain and Abel then how did any of us get here? I have found that the bible RARELY mentions the birth of the females .. usually only the males. So that would explain why there is no mention of the rest of the progeny.
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Old 14th May 2000, 14:37
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Absolutely correct Sweet One, women are protrayed in the Bible as so insignificant we hardly get a mention.
So in my twisted logic.....the Bible was written for man. Men need to follow the Bible, not women. <Ouch!!! Who threw that rock?>

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Old 15th May 2000, 05:29
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did perfection require that adam and eve be unable to do wrong? the maker of a robot expects it to do exactly what he has programmed it to do. but a perfect robot would not be a perfect human. the qualities viewed as essential are not the same, adam and eve were humans, not robots. to humankind god gave the ability to choose between right and wrong, between obedience and disobedience, to make moral decisions. since this is the way humans were designed, the inablility to make such deciions is what would have indicated imperfection.
Deuteronomy 30:19,20 Joshua 24:15
for adam and eve to qualify as being created perfect, must all their decsions thereafter be right? That would be the same as saying that htey had no choice. But god did not make them in such a way that their obedience would be automatic. God granted them the ability to choose, so that they could obey because they loved him. Or, if they allowed their hearts to become selfish, they would become disobedient. Which means more to you--when someone does something for you because he is forced to do it or because he wants to?
Deuteronomy 11:1 1John 5:3

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Old 17th May 2000, 17:12
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Becca, I've found that in the bible the women are only given two laws from God .. and their right in the beginning, the rest are for men .. but .. the laws are very specific ..

1st:

bring forth children unto their husbands.

2nd:

to obey their husbands in all things


so .. for those out there who say that women have to do what the law of the bibles says .. well thats not correct technically .. as long as her 'head' or husband doesnt give her those laws ... she doesnt have them .. i know thats going to spark a few flames but well its just right there

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I was raised to think for myself and not let anyone "man or woman" tell me what to do. Probably why I have trouble following the Bible. I never could get that "obeying" part down.

I must thank my parents for that.

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Old 17th May 2000, 19:53
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I agree I was taught that to think for myself ..not tolet any man rule me. So the Obey part is not in my vocabulary at all. I am to strong willed to let any man tell me what to do..
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