WHO IS YOUR GOD and WHERE IS IT.......

[eve1102]

Hmmm..Well as for the trinity jesus and god are seperate, but they share the same Holy spirit(ghost). As for the desciples..Jesus sent them out to be messengers of gods word and teachings.

Not every1 will beleive in what i beleive and that is fine. i said it before on here somewhere that we each have to find our pathway to the Creator. Each pathway if diff for every1. God and jesus is not in a temple or church or any building. He is found within us. Our faith so to speak. The i what i believe. I don't have to go to a building to pray to him or learn about him. I go out in nature that he created and meditate and listen. Each time it is something new I learn. The Bible in any text is guide that is inspired by the Creator. The bible has been translated so much that allot of the actuall meanings and so forth are forever lost. but we can get an idea as to what god wanted for us all. and that is peace and long life. It is said that to know love is to know God. I believe that..maybe it is because I have a big heart and i care about every1 no matter what. just my two cents worth.

Evie

[TheMuslim]

Eve1102,

Here is a response to trinity. Please take time to check it out for the sake of the truth of one God to earth.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm

I wonder if Evelyn Wood has a "speed reading" program for the computer???

Hi Sweet One, I saw an excellent documentary about the persecution of witches in Europe during the reign of King James. Seems he went to Denmark or Sweden to get his "mail order" bride. I believe it was Sweden....anyways, he was stranded there during some kind of blizzard. At that time "the" country was going through an extremely suspersitious time. To make a long story short, once King James returned back to England, he was a changed man. That is when he had his scholars change the Bible. That is also when the presecution of women being witches began. First it started as the "old woman" healer of a village, then it continued up to even nobelmen's wives.

Muslim, I'm sure whatever book you read (sorry, I don't remember what you called it), has most likely been rewritten as well. It really only matters if you believe it to be true. I just don't like people telling me that whatever book they read is the truth. It's up to each person's perception. Man if fallible and therefore, I don't believe man knows what the truth is. Therefore, my brain shuts off and I'm not interested when someone says, "read this, this is the truth."

Oh dear, I think I wrote a "condensed" version of a novel.

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[eve1102]

Muslim,

I am well awear of what the trinity is. God and Jesus are seperate but they share the same spirit. For Jesus is his son and given the same perfect soul/spirit. I never sais Jesus was God.

[TheMuslim]

Eve,

If Jesus is Son of God, then God is human. What you are saying doesn't make any sense.

"Say ye: 'We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes (of
the Children of Israel), And that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).' " (the Holy Quran 2:136).

"Say: 'O People of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah (God); that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah (God)'. If then they turn back, say: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (Bowing to God's Will).' " (the Holy Quran 3:64)

According to the objective standards set by the professor of the Chicago University, Jesus and Buddha are nowhere in the picture of the "Great Leaders of Mankind", but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhammed together, thus adding further weight to the argument that Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed is like Moses. Deut 18:18 "Like unto thee", like Moses!

For more information about this read: http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-20479/Muhame.htm

Salam
TheMuslim

[eve1102]

Originally posted by TheMuslim:
Eve,

If Jesus is Son of God, then God is human. What you are saying doesn't make any sense.

that is totally incorrect. God is not human. He is the only begotten son of god.

Jesus' being called the "only begotten son"(Joh 1:14;3:16, 18 ; 1Jo 4:9) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not gods sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:4-7) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of hid father, the first born Son was unigue, different from all others of God's sons, allof whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn son. So "the word" was jehovah's "only begotten son" in a particular sense, even as Isaac was Abrahams "only begotten son" in a particular sense(his father already havng anothers son but not by his wife sarah). -Heb 11:17;Ge 16:15

My point is that God being not of human form gave mary this child. He made her pregnant by his will. she gave birth to Jesus..She was not with anyone so god gave her this child and told them to name him Jesus. He is gods only begotten son in that way. they are Seperate as i said before. But Jesus is Gods Son..his only begotten son. His firsborn.

Gabriel appears before Mary a delivers a message. he says "Listen! "you have found favor with God," Gabriel tells mary. "Look! You will concieve in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus." Gabriel adds:" This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High;..and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end to his kingdom." After Gabriel tells Mary that she will give birth to a boy who will an everlastng king, Mary Asks," How is this to be since I am havinf no intercourse with man?" "holy spirit will come upon you,"Gabriel explains." and teh power of the most High will overshadow you. for that reason also what is born willbe called holy, Gods son."

God is not nor has he ever been human, but Jesus is the "only begotten son" of god.


[This message has been edited by eve1102 (edited 14 May 2000).]

[Goose]

It might be helpful if we stick to the subject here. Its not a discussion of which religion is better than the other one or whose God is stronger.

The subject is who is your God and Where is It! To me this is only a suggestion to give an overview of our beliefs and how we achieve our spiritual wholeness.

Somehow I don't see how prophets, lawgivers or soothsayers fit in.


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