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Old 7th July 2014, 09:29
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As some of us have tried to explain... This is an AMERICAN site, with an overwhelming portion of members also from the US. Your norms often hold more sway here than ours.
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Old 7th July 2014, 23:44
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Putting religion to one side - I love the fact that both us Scots and Americans have the same general view of life but use different words and accents to describe it

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Old 8th July 2014, 06:29
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Ok, I understand. I just think it odd for there to be an entire section for religion and philosophy on here if that is the case.
I concur.

@ Polwarth - It's not obligatory to join every discussion.

If you don't like the subject matter, don't participate in the discussion.

Religion shapes the world we live in, whether we like it or not - and I'm interested to know what motivates people to make the life choices they do, and why.
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Old 8th July 2014, 17:21
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Originally posted by Magenta

Religion shapes the world we live in, whether we like it or not.

But it might interest Americans to understand the fundamental differences that exist between American attitudes to religion and those in Scotland and most of the rest of western Europe. The fact is that in Scotland religion shapes the lives of very few people and for most it's a complete non issue - personally I would be glad to see it disappear altogether so society can concentrate on more meaningful things.
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Old 9th July 2014, 12:21
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The fact is that in Scotland religion shapes the lives of very few people.
I must disagree with you there bro!

Religion is fundamental to life in Scotland (religion, not God)

I'm thinking the whole Catholic / Protestant / Celtic / Rangers nonsense. The Orange Walks . . . .

And there are the practicalities! Old Kirk laws forbid the opening of pubs in Scotland before 12 on Sunday so the men won't be tempted away from church services.

Much of Scotland's history is inextricably linked to religion - imagine if Christianity had never existed - we can't, can we!? Our flag, the Saltire, is a Christian symbol!
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Old 9th July 2014, 15:45
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I'm thinking more about actual religious practice rather than symbolism or archaic laws. Thirty years ago in my town there were about a dozen churches mostly dating from the Victorian era and over the past decade one has been converted into luxury housing another has been converted into a Bistro and another is now a funeral directors. A couple of them were just demolished to provide space for other buildings - that to me sums up the state of religion in Scotland. Increasing numbers of people have no interest in it at all and I expect that trend to continue.
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Old 9th July 2014, 20:17
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I personally believe that religion and worship are simply what a person believes, how they carry out their beliefs, and what they put the most value on. So a person can (and in my opinion, normally does) have religion whether they acknowledge any recognized form of deity or not. Humanism, naturalism, secularism, socialism, environmentalism, existentialism, etc. could be considered forms of religion. In which case, essentially, religion and applied philosophy are essentially the same thing to me.

I am not passing judgment on anyone by saying so. Only analyzing things based on my understanding. Which no doubt differs from many other people's understanding.

It may very well be that in Scotland, the UK, Europe, etc. people are not comfortable discussing these kinds of things, so I will try not to. However, if I were to, I suppose the philosophy and religion section would be the place to do so.
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