Blair will become a Catholic

[oneofthefew]

Originally Posted by DigitaLVampirE

My comment was directed at your usual complains about copying/pasting articles, but somehow you found your way here to post. Did i say you were not allowed to post? You really need to do something about that inferiority complex.

Of course I found my way here to post, its quite simple when you follow the directions. As for my "usual complaints", as you can see from other comments they are shared by others on this forum. To put it simply for you DV, it is YOU that is the troll here!

As for the world only revolving about Scottish or British information, when did I ever say that should be the case? If you are meaning that I feel that a forum on scotland.com should cover Scottish issues then yes, I do feel that way - as do 88.89% of the members of this forum last time I checked! It seems to be only you that disputes this forum should cover Scotland with your repeated use of this forum as a personal blog! As I said already, your actions on this forum make you a troll - how you became a moderator on here is a mystery to me as it is to many others!

[sgriobhadair]

Originally Posted by DigitaLVampirE

You could at least show some consideration for the efforts instead of trying to insult. The articles are meant to promote discussions, not for baiting. You should avoid derailing a thread with off-topic posts and attempts at baiting.

Exactly. How much discussion have you stirred up? Virtually none. Because your garrulity smothers it. If you have a point to make about Blair's impending conversion, why not make it? Make it simple, and at least marginally contentious, and you might spark some kind of Socratic debate that will be interesting and enlightening to all.

My aim is not simple mockery, but to point out the error of your ways. Being a Scot, I tend to take a proprietary interest in what is being said under the rubric of my national identity. I'd hate people to plug into this and imagine that all Scots are as turgidly opinionated as your own good self.

[oneofthefew]

You make a good point there sgriobhadair. However, it is clear from previous posts that the only thing DV wants to do is post for his own amusement - as in his personal blog! If anyone chooses to disagree with him - either to comments he makes (which are very few and far between) or his method of posting - then his tactic is to try and get them removed from the board or, as happened with KathyV, chase them off with the help of admin. His attitude and manner would not be tolerated on most forums, whether about Scotland, religion or whatever and most admins wouldn't hesitate to remove him - unfortunately here they make him a mod!

[sgriobhadair]

Originally Posted by oneofthefew

You make a good point there sgriobhadair. However, it is clear from previous posts that the only thing DV wants to do is post for his own amusement - as in his personal blog! If anyone chooses to disagree with him - either to comments he makes (which are very few and far between) or his method of posting - then his tactic is to try and get them removed from the board or, as happened with KathyV, chase them off with the help of admin. His attitude and manner would not be tolerated on most forums, whether about Scotland, religion or whatever and most admins wouldn't hesitate to remove him - unfortunately here they make him a mod!

I see. In which case I'll be kicked off toot sweet. I like nothing better than a DISCUSSION about difficult issues, but discussions must be governed by the rules of rhetoric, otherwise only the noisiest and most bullying voices are heard.

I look forward to getting kicked off. I shall make a point of never using bad language or scurrility, not 'baiting' anyone just for the heck of it and always address the issue at hand. I'll be proud to be kicked off because, in my polite and reasonable way, I make DV uncomfortable.

One issue at hand, as I see it, is something to do with Catholicism and Tony Blair. If Tony Blair wants to become a Catholic, who objects, and why? Is it because he has blood on his hands?

The other issue is Digital Vampire's inability to further such a discussion without repelling smart, informed people with something to say.

[oneofthefew]

Originally Posted by sgriobhadair

I see. In which case I'll be kicked off toot sweet. I like nothing better than a DISCUSSION about difficult issues, but discussions must be governed by the rules of rhetoric, otherwise only the noisiest and most bullying voices are heard.

That sounds about right! This is meant to be a discussion forum, but by copying and pasting one article and then the same person responding to that (repeatedly) by copying and pasting other articles does remove the discussion aspect! Then again, that does stop the person doing the copying and pasting from having to think for themself - and judging by their responses when picked up they are better sticking to the copy/paste route though their own weblog would be a better medium for that!

I look forward to getting kicked off. I shall make a point of never using bad language or scurrility, not 'baiting' anyone just for the heck of it and always address the issue at hand. I'll be proud to be kicked off because, in my polite and reasonable way, I make DV uncomfortable.

I think a lot of people make this particular person uncomfortable. Just reading through his weblog... oops, I mean the Religion and Philosophy section of the forum makes that clear!

One issue at hand, as I see it, is something to do with Catholicism and Tony Blair. If Tony Blair wants to become a Catholic, who objects, and why? Is it because he has blood on his hands?

I do believe this is supposed to be about Blair and his aspirations to convert. As for objections, those doing so appear to be doing so elsewhere - or maybe they have been put off commenting for the reasons stated above, i.e. the way a certain person uses this forum! As a result the discussion ceases to be about the actual issue, but then it would seem the person who started the topic didn't want a discussion anyway. Looking through similar topics he has started that would certainly appear to be the case - no matter how many people DON'T comment, he doesn't get the hint therefore he's happy to control the forum and run it his way!

The other issue is Digital Vampire's inability to further such a discussion without repelling smart, informed people with something to say.

I don't think there is a single discussion on this forum that DV has furthered in any way! He's incapable of having a reasoned discussion, therefore he avoids just that and resorts to his bullying tactics instead!

Now, back to Tony Blair, who really cares what he chooses to do? As for him becoming a Catholic, is there any reason he shouldn't? If there is then fair enough, but then all those who are already Catholics should then take a good look at themselves to see if they deserve to remain so!

[sgriobhadair]

Originally Posted by oneofthefew

Now, back to Tony Blair, who really cares what he chooses to do? As for him becoming a Catholic, is there any reason he shouldn't? If there is then fair enough, but then all those who are already Catholics should then take a good look at themselves to see if they deserve to remain so!

Well, not being a Catholic, it doesn't matter to me either, except..... the hypocrisy offends me. Like it or not, Blair is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people, and that's not even counting the enlisted men of UK and USA. Maybe he's seeking some kind of absolution. The Catholic Church features confession and redemption. "Bless me Father, for I have bombed thousands of innocent Iraqis to hell. How many Hail Marys do I have to do?"

Glad to make your acquaintance. Oneofthefew.

[oneofthefew]

I get your point about the hypocrisy, but Blair is not alone in that responsibility. I'd rather see our troops return home - preferably before another one gets killed or more innocent lives are lost! If Blair is only becoming a Catholic to get forgiven then that is hypocrisy at his worst - as he's a politician he's certainly not against being a hypocrit. However, I don't believe that is the ONLY reason, but couldn't care less if it was - good luck to the man!

Nice to make you acquaintance as well sgriobhadair - even if it is until one (or both) of us are removed from this forum