Deity?

[DistantCelt]

I dont think Buddhism seeks oneness with the universe. I wont pretend to understand what it seeks but it isnt oneness with the universe. Besides, Buddhism is not a religion- the difference between a religion and a philosophy(such as Aristotlean philosophy) is the deity/deities, for the first and foremost fundamental concept of religion is the presence of a deity that you worship. Buddhism has no such deity.

[Gypsum_Fantastic]

Originally Posted by DistantCelt

1. Hitler was a proclaimed Christian. Get your facts straight.

Hitler wasn't a Christian. There is a wealth of evidence that Hitler rejected Christianity and despised it. Like yourself.

Originally Posted by DistantCelt

2. There is nothing de-humanising about stating facts and deriving the logical conclusion from that.

It is dehumanising to compare the complex and living nature of a human being to a lump of space rock floating on a sea of nothingness.

Originally Posted by DistantCelt

Ofcourse one needs the ability to learn to determine that, something you lack utterly. For i am an agnostic, not an atheist.

I'm not interested in what label you wish to attach to yourself. You have revealed enough about yourself for me to comfortably say that your Weltanschuung is a typically dreary, uninspired one and this reflects itself in your personality.

Originally Posted by DistantCelt

I wonder how you sleep. Actually no, i dont. I KNOW how you sleep - for i used to be religious once and i know precisely how laughably shortsighted that mindset is.

Yeah, like Einstein - ""Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe -- a spirit vastly superior to that of man."

[ANDY-J3]

Originally posted by DistantCelt


I dont think Buddhism seeks oneness with the universe. I wont pretend to understand what it seeks but it isnt oneness with the universe. Besides, Buddhism is not a religion- the difference between a religion and a philosophy(such as Aristotlean philosophy) is the deity/deities, for the first and foremost fundamental concept of religion is the presence of a deity that you worship. Buddhism has no such deity.


Buddhism is a religion in one sense because it is a formal institutionalised expression of a set of beliefs yet it is also a system of philosophy but it differs from other religions in that it is based on practice rather than belief in supernatural deities. The cosmic consciousness is a concept which exists in Buddhism. When a soul attains nirvana it transcends the material realm and becomes one with the universal consciousness.

[DistantCelt]

Hitler wasn't a Christian. There is a wealth of evidence that Hitler rejected Christianity and despised it. Like yourself.

certain Christian denominations require acceptance of Christ as saviour as the sole criteria to be considered Christian and Hitler had declared early in his life that he is a christian, never rescending it.

It is dehumanising to compare the complex and living nature of a human being to a lump of space rock floating on a sea of nothingness.

The EARTH is a lump of space rock floating on a sea of nothingness and we are barely keeping stuff together on it.
If you find truth dehumanising, i guess that is why you run to your cosmic daddy to soothe your fragile ego and 'i am special. say so say so say so' insecurities.

I'm not interested in what label you wish to attach to yourself. You have revealed enough about yourself for me to comfortably say that your Weltanschuung is a typically dreary, uninspired one and this reflects itself in your personality.

Perhaps. Inspiring or uninspiring are irrelevant. Truth is what is relevant.
Something that you cannot accept.

Yeah, like Einstein - ""Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe -- a spirit vastly superior to that of man."

Common anecdotal mislabelling of Einstien. Einstien officially released a statement late in his life stating that he does NOT believe in a God.

[ANDY-J3]

Einstein stated that he didn't believe in a personal God but he didn't deny that he believed in some form of omnipotent power that had created the universe so he probably falls into the category of deist rather than atheist.

[DistantCelt]

Originally Posted by ANDY-J3

Einstein stated that he didn't believe in a personal God but he didn't deny that he believed in some form of omnipotent power that had created the universe so he probably falls into the category of deist rather than atheist.

Perhaps. But to me the question of a universal creator is largely irrelevant. Especially the 'worship' part.

[ANDY-J3]

I'm not an atheist but I don't have any desire to worship anything or anyone. It's possible to believe in a creator without having an interest in religious worship.