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Old 17th September 2005, 00:12
Jock_Tams_Bairn Jock_Tams_Bairn is offline
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Isn't it great how the idea of "Gods plan" directly interferes with free will? Cant really have one with out the other. anyone else noticed this or am I the only one?
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Old 17th September 2005, 14:47
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So how does god decide who should be born blind or pysically hadicapped. And who should get cancer? And who should be drowned in hurricanes?
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Old 22nd March 2008, 19:01
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Who is the Creator(God)?

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Isn't it great how the idea of "Gods plan" directly interferes with free will? Cant really have one with out the other. anyone else noticed this or am I the only one?
Who is the Creator?
Creator is a collective, special Force that monitors the whole system of creation. That Force is one and unique. In Kabbalah there is but one primary law - the law of creation, which is to delight the creatures in any way the creatures can be delighted. All other laws stem from that one law, and everything that happens does so in the carrying out of that law. Everything that happens at any given moment in creation, its sole purpose is to take people come to the pointof utter bliss - to be filled with the Light of the Creator.
The Creator acts much like gravity: in the center of creation is the Creator. The souls were distanced five worlds away from Him. We live in the last one, called "our world". From that point Creator pulls us toward Him.
We sense that pull as pain - beginning with disease and ending in painful death. But if we make an effort to approach the Creator by cooperating with that Force, we will nor feel the pain. Instead, we will feel that Force as good. If, however, we refuse to, we will feel any troubles to the same extent that we resist. The Creator created us through His wish to give, to bestow. He created our will to receive exactly in the amount that He wanted to give. That why we must attain everything that He wants to give us eternity, strength, perfection, total control. This means we must assume all the duties of the Creator.
The primery law of creation is the singularity of the Creator-the one and only power that controls everything."There is none beside Him".
The second law of creation is that the Creator is totally benevolent. We cannot settle the contradiction between these two laws as they appear in our conception of reality.
To Kabbalists, this is not an"idea", but a fact they discover within their sansation of the Creator. People cannot begin to understand how there could have been a holocaust if there is a Creator, because they do not feel Him!!! In fact, the benevolence of the Creator appears only in our corrected desires.
If we are not corrected, then to the extent of the corruption to the Light, we will feel the opposite of the goodness of the Creator, feelings torment instead of happiness.
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Old 23rd March 2008, 12:33
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I worry about the extent of "correction" mentioned in your little rant. Are you one of those cults into whips and leather wellies?
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Old 26th March 2008, 17:54
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I worry about the extent of "correction" mentioned in your little rant. Are you one of those cults into whips and leather wellies?
I'm one who takes: Kabbalists teach us and tell us this famous allegory about a generous shop owner whose shop is always open, and everyone can walk in and take what they want. But his hand writes what you take, and his collectors collect. You can pay him by becoming like him, which is what he wants, or you can use what he gives you for yourself, and then his collectors come.
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Old 27th March 2008, 07:38
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Classic pseudo-religious gibberish...
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Old 27th March 2008, 08:07
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Awww, Nonny - you mean you urnae fallin fur his rubbish?!
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