To scotish republican

[DrJames]

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW GOD BY
DEBATING HIS WORD.


But these things are spiritual, and moreover, people are not getting any teaching from their religious leaders, and they cannot understand these things since they do not have the necessary knowledge to understand them. One cannot truly understand things of faith until one is brought into saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

1 Cor. 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Cor. 2:14 (Living)
But the man who isn't a Christian can't understand and can't accept these thoughts from God, which the Holy Spirit teaches us. They sound foolish to him because only those who have the Holy Spirit within them can understand what the Holy Spirit means. Others just can't take it in.

YOU CANNOT FIND IT OUT BY HUMAN MAGNITISM.

Job 11:7 (KJV)
Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?

Job 11:7 (Living)
"Do you know the mind and purposes of God? Will long searching make them known to you? Are you qualified to judge the Almighty?

SEEK HIM BY PRAYERS AND NOT BY STUDYING.

Jeremiah 29:13 (KJV)
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

GOD GAVE YOU A MEASURE OF BELIVING FAITH
AND HE EXPECTS YOU TO USE THAT IN LOCATING HIM.

Romans 12:3 (KJV) For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
DO NOT BE ACTING STUPID.

Psalm 32:9 (KJV) Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.


WITHOUT THIS MEASURE OF FAITH IT IS
IMPOSSIBLE TO COME TO GOD.

So God already went ahead and made it possible for you and I to come to him.

Hebrews 11:6 (KJV)
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Hebrews 4:16 (KJV)
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

[DistantCelt]

All that may be valid if the source of that is flawless and completely original.
Since the bible is neither flawless and nor is it original, i see no reason to show faith towards a flawed and inconsistent book of 'God'.

[Scottish_Republican]

And you'll never know God merely by being told what to believe by human beings. Hmm, someone in the church told me God wrote it, so it must be true.

If God wrote the Bible, he is not omnipotent.

An omnipotent God would not make so many howlers and mistakes. Why would God think the Earth was flat? Yet that's what it says in the Bible.

"YOU WILL NEVER KNOW GOD BY
DEBATING HIS WORD."

And you'll never prove the Bible just by quoting the Bible. It's called circular logic.

p.s. Have you even looked at the long list of contradictions I supplied you with?

[DrJames]

An omnipotent God would not make so many howlers and mistakes. Why would God think the Earth was flat? Yet that's what it says in the Bible.


Job 22:14 (KJV)
Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.
Do you know what "Circuit" Mean?

[Myers]

I am sure it could be translated in several different ways and all of them would be relevant depending on your perspective or which point you are trying to make.

As with many of the bibles fables.

[SherbrookeJacobite]

Originally posted by Scottish_Republican
And you'll never know God merely by being told what to believe by human beings. Hmm, someone in the church told me God wrote it, so it must be true.

If God wrote the Bible, he is not omnipotent.

An omnipotent God would not make so many howlers and mistakes. Why would God think the Earth was flat? Yet that's what it says in the Bible.

"YOU WILL NEVER KNOW GOD BY
DEBATING HIS WORD."

And you'll never prove the Bible just by quoting the Bible. It's called circular logic.

p.s. Have you even looked at the long list of contradictions I supplied you with?

Where in the Bible does it say the earth is flat?

[Scottish_Republican]

The Earth is immovable in Space (i.e. does not rotate, nor orbit).

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

Flat Earth

The essential flatness of the Earth's surface is required by verses like Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.” If the earth were flat, a sufficiently tall tree would be visible to “the earth's farthest bounds,” but this is impossible on a spherical earth. Likewise, in describing the temptation of Jesus by Satan, Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.”

Obviously, this would be possible only if the earth were flat. The same is true of Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...”