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Old 19th June 2004, 17:06
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Religions from an Islamic perspective

Hello all...It's been a while...

Here is what Islam says, briefly, about religions:

1- Adam & Eve -peace be upon them- arrived from heaven to earth where they were already believers of the one God.

2- People in the era of Noah -peace and blessing be upon him- have deviated from worshipping the one God to worshipping 5 statues, which were constructed on top of the tombs of 5 good people (the statues carried their names) thinking that those were blessed and had divine powers (you can find a lot of people practicing similar things around the world).

3- After Noah ship landed, only the faithful with him have remained on earth while all others were taken by the flood (not a belief but an assumption).

4- After Noah -peace be upon him-, people have deviated again and taken statues as gods.

5- Then came Ibrahim -peace and blessing be upon him- with his unique Monotheist attitude against his own people...and his religion is called "Haneefi" as mentioned in Qur'an.

6- Ibrahim, Izaac, Ismail, Jacob (Israel) and his sons -peace & blessings be upon all of them weren't Jews nor Christians...they were Monotheists...

7- Judaism refers the tribe (Judas) of which Moses -peace & blessings be upon him- came from...so it's more of an ethnic reference rather than a religious one (you can find some who are called Jews don't believe in God or in Judaism).

8- Jesus Christ -Peace and blessings be upon him- was Jewish and came to guide the people of Israel.

9- People later on have come up with Christianity as a separate religion from Judaism (out of rivalry), assumed that Jesus Christ was the son of God, and invented trinity.

10- Islam has come finally to reassure to the people the Monotheist concept (which is a human instinct that non-monothiests deny)...and that all religions and prophets have come with the same ideologies and main concpets of Monotheism and morals....and there would be some differences among them due to differences in the time and place of revelation, and the people who were intended for that revelation....and that Islam is the final one.

Verse and Hadeeth:

A- "We, Muslims, believe that Allah never deprive any nation in the world of having access to a divine message. This fact is referred to in the Qur’an, as Allah Almighty says: “And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.” (Al-Ma’dah: 48)


B- This is taken from the prophet's -peace & blessings upon him- speech:

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) has further explained the finality of Prophethood through a beautiful parable as he said: “The best illustration of my relationship to previous Prophets is the case of a man who built a mansion which he perfected and beautified, except for a the spot of a single brick in one of its corners (which he had left vacant). People went around the mansion, all of them fascinated by it, and exclaiming: 'how excellent it would be if only this space had been filled!' I am that brick and I am the seal of Prophets.” (Reported by Muslim and others)."


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Old 19th June 2004, 22:38
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Is there one true religion?
Depends on who you are asking. A jew would tell you his religion is the one and only. The moslem, of course, would say Islam is the right one. What I consider the true religion isn't necessarily the right one for you - each individual has to find out on his own.

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Is christianity become the dominant religion in britian? If so why?
It already is, with all variations, not only in Britain but in whole Europe: catholics, orthodox, protestant, etc. have been here for centuries. Moslems, Jews, Buddhist, etc. are minorities and I doubt that this will change.

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Has religion done more bad for the world rather than good?
A lot of bad things happend in the name of "god" or "allah": Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, moslems vs. jews, etc. etc. etc. For individuals however it can be very good, like helping you through hard times.

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I'm not religious at all, should i be?]
If you don't know it yourself how can anyone else know?
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Old 25th June 2004, 23:51
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Before I could argue that a man could or could not be the son of the God of Christianity I would need to establish beyond question that said God actually existed.
Perhaps but before you can make the assertion that it is instrinsically impossible for a man to be the Son of the God of Christianity you need to establish beyond question that said God does not exist.

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No one has ever provided concrete proof of his existence therefore I am quite safe in stating that no man can be the son of God.
This is a non-sequitur. See above.

As a side note, it is merely your opinion that there is no concrete proof for the existence of God. There are many arguments for it such as the teleological, axiological, and first-cause arguments as well as the empirical evidence of miracles and the testimony of thousands of mystics. Some people accept these as sufficient proof, and some do not.

Atheists usually focus on rebutting arguments for God, and only have one positive argument against Him, which is the argument from evil and that is rebutted quite well by Christians.

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Supposing the very flimsy textual evidence proving he performed miracles were believed-even that wouldn't prove his divinity.It might prove nothing more than that he was a skillful trickster.
Tricksters don't die for their lies.

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No one who wishes to establish truth should dismiss anything offhand but should scrutinise the available evidence objectively.
No arguments here.

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Supernatural events aren't something which people tend to encounter in their lives therefore I would suggest that it takes an inordinate amount of faith,and dare I say gullibility,to have an unquestioning belief that a text which was written two thousand years ago gives a truthful and accurate account of events.
Well, honesty is a habit and Luke's honesty can be proven by comparing Acts with known history. Besides, people don't die for things they know to be lies. If Jesus' disciples forged their accounts of His life they would not have been willing to be martyred for the story.
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