How does a human heart and human blood go 1200 yrs without decaying?

[Fear_nam_Beanntan]

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucha.../lanciano.html

Any naturalistic explanations?

[ANDY-J2]

Straightforward fraud would be the most obvious explanation.Subject the tissue to carbon dating and then we can be sure that it is indeed twelve centuries old.

[Fear_nam_Beanntan]

The thing has been on display for hundreds of years. Do you think a nun has been coming in and swapping in a new heart every day for the past millenium, and no one has wisened up yet?

[ANDY-J2]

If someone has a mind to mislead others then it would be a simple matter to find another human heart and many thousands of people must have had such an opportunity over the centuries-clerics after all have an interest in trying to prove that alleged miracles have some validity.As I have stated before on this board extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs and that human tissue could survive so long without deterioration is extraordinary in the extreme.Given that this heart has been on public display and could have been tampered with at any time it is worthless as a means of proving that any supernatural event has occured.

[Fear_nam_Beanntan]

It was examined in 1970 by Dr. Linoli, and no preservatives were found.

[ANDY-J2]

A heart was examined in 1970 and no preservatives were found.Unless it can be stated without any shadow of reasonable doubt that none of the many thousands of people that came into contact with this heart tampered with it in any way we cannot simply accept that this is an organ that has remained without deterioration for twelve hundred years.Given certain special conditions organic materials can survive for very long periods of time and there are examples from throughout the world where human tissue which had been mummified can survive relatively intact for many thousands of years.

[CreepingJesus]

The site claims "The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood-type: AB (Blood-type identical to that which Prof. Baima Bollone uncovered in the Holy Shroud of Turin)."

That would be the same paint type as the well known 14th century fake of Turin then.

I have also searched for references to the "eminent" scientists Prof. Odoardo Linoli and Prof. Ruggero Bertelli.

Oddly, their only mention on the entire internet appears to have been in the role of vatican appointees in the "verification" of this phenomenon.

"eminent" seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.

For example. A search for a contemporary scientist in a completely different field, Alan Crundwell, a bryologist at Glasgow University,, and dead for some years, throws up a big list of different papers and work.

An "eminent" scientist would have more than just one project listed on the net.

Looks like some wee tuppenny ha'penny doctor prepared to give his name to a lie.

More discussion on this here...

http://www.bakkster.com/r_para8.htm