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24th August 2003, 02:30
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Objective truth: Something is objective insofar as it is independent of either a particular mind or minds altogether: "matter of fact."
Subjective truth: Something is subjective insofar as it is dependent of either a particular mind or minds altogether: "matter of opinion." Is truth the sum total of objective and subjective matters? Is it subjective and relative? Or does a conclusive truth – non-dual, singular – exist?
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24th August 2003, 17:38
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As an absolutist, I believe that truth is a state of corespondence betwen belief and objective fact. Absolute truth is real, possible to discover, and is in no way dependent upon what people believe to be true. I would hesitate to call "opinion" subjectve truth, inasmuchas it does not alwas correspond to actual truth. I'd just keep on calling it "opinion."
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24th August 2003, 23:10
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'Subjective truth' does not only refer to what one believes to be true – that is to say... when one has an opinion about an actual truth and can be wrong –; but also to an arbitrary expression of private taste like the ice cream flavor – that is to say... up to the individual and no one else and it can never be wrong.
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26th August 2003, 22:25
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Having given this some thought I would say that both kinds of truth exist. The physical facts of the universe constitute objective truth - these things are 'mind-independent truths'. Facts about the quality of experience of individuals are subjective truths. They are no less 'true' than objective truths but they are only really known to the individual concerned. I don't see these kinds of truth as conflicting - they cover different ground.
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5th September 2003, 16:14
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"They both exist, I agree on that. So would you say that truth for you is the sum of objective and subjective matters?"
They are both valid but distinct and together constitute 'truth', so yes, I would say that.
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