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Old 22nd September 2003, 18:38
susandel susandel is offline
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Ben I did it again. I went off on a rampage. I get so carried away when I read things. I am very sorry. I do not know what gets into me when I start typing. My hands just take over. The devil made me do it! I have issues and it is certainly not your fault. I am not a nut case. Well one might debate that if they have followed my comments. I just want every one to hear my side but you know what? It does not matter.

I am happy you can follow the Catholic Church and be happy. If you go to church just for your own sake as I am sure you do than you are doing the right thing.

I have to learn not to worry about what other people do.

I am sorry for spouting my life long issues at you.

Susan
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Old 22nd September 2003, 22:22
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Hi Mamie! Love the cat's eyes! They look real! Woweeee! Thanks for the suggestion of the book. Hope you are doing well.

Talisien, certainly I do not judge you for not going to church. I have been very disillusioned by "The church" for several years now, which is one of my reasons for not wanting to even go to church. But what I have learned is that I have to keep my eyes focused on Jesus and not on man. That works for me! Just thought I would share.

Susandel! I am sorry to hear of your bad experience with the Catholic church. I was born and raised a Catholic myself and have my own issues with them that I will not go into. As a result I became a Protestant Christian. I struggle everyday with becoming the "ultimate Christian" but who doesn't in the faith. Thank God for His mercy, patience and lovingkindness towards His children. I just wish other Christians would act on the attitude of What Would Jesus Do? I also have issues with other Christians sometimes. I have been hurt by many, but they are human beings like myself trying to do the best they can do. I am not perfect either. I have hurt people too. Done some pretty stupid things, said some pretty stupid things and continue to do, despite myself! I just feel that this world is a learning ground for all of us and we learn from each other. But my source of truth for me is the Bible, whether I go to church or not, which I do do. We all make mistakes but have to move on and not focus on them. As long as we learn from them, that is the main thing. Once again focusing on Jesus and not on man! I don't know why I am rambling here, but just got caught up in all what you all were saying and was heartfelt for what you have been through. Hope you didn't mind my rambling!
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Old 23rd September 2003, 00:17
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Nope haven't read any of Donohue's poetry - shall have to see if i can find it. Thanks Tal.
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Old 23rd September 2003, 04:41
HollyElise HollyElise is offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Talisien
Here's another one I like very much.

As the hand is made for holding
And the eye for seeing,
You have fashioned me, O lord, for joy.
Share with me the vision
To find that joy everywhere:
In the wild violet's beauty,
In the lark's melody,
In the face of a steadfast man,
In a child's smile,
In a mother's love,
In the purity of Jesus.
Wow, that's beautiful.

I'm vaguely remmbering something from the Talmud... how did that go? Something like, "God will make us account for every joy not taken"... i know i don't have that right. But i love that phrase, "You have fashioned me, O lord, for joy."
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Old 24th September 2003, 15:45
susandel susandel is offline
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Good Morning............or maybe good evening too.

Desert-rose.........I do not mind you putting your comment in. This is a public conversation. I should not get mad at the church.......well, I just should learn to keep my mouth shut, let it go, and become more diplomatic. WWJD......but then again.........I am not Jesus.......hey.......I was taught not to jump off a bridge if my friend jumps. (joke)

This discussion board it actually teaching me by what is written by me. After I have submitted my comments on the treads then go back later to view the board I get sick at what I previously wrote. I am learning slowly................but at least I am learning. I say things that I would be hurt at if someone had writen it to me. When I write I am in no way saying things to hurt someone. I just would not do that..........but I see otherwise.

I am enjoying these prayers. They also make me reflect on Jesus/God and I feel peacefull. Thanks for the prayers y'all!

Susan
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