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Old 3rd July 2003, 00:15
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God/Allah said in qoran

70. Ye People of the Book(christians and jews)! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, of which ye are (Yourselves) witnesses?

71. Ye People of the Book(christians and jews) ! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?

99. Say: "O ye People of the Book! Why obstruct ye those who believe, from the path of Allah, Seeking to make it crooked, while ye were yourselves witnesses (to Allah.s Covenant)? but Allah is not unmindful of all that ye do."

100. O ye who believe(muslims)! If ye listen to a faction among the People of the Book(christians and jews), they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed!

15. From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.

16. O people of the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger(Muhammed), revealing to you much that ye used to hide in the Book/bible, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary). There hath come to you from Allah a (new) light and a perspicuous Book(qoran),-

85. If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah., never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).








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Old 3rd July 2003, 01:29
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I'm not a witness to any signs or miracles that prove Islam. Neither have I seen reliable documentation for any miracles save those that Christian Churches investigate.

Threats of damnation from the Quran aren't going to convince people who don't believe that the Quran is from God that Islam is the true religion. I might as well try to convince an atheist of the truth of Christianity by telling him that the book of Revelation says he's damned.
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Old 3rd July 2003, 13:41
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"I'm not a witness to any signs or miracles that prove Islam. Neither have I seen reliable documentation for any miracles save those that Christian Churches investigate. "

oh man dont be stupid, do you believe that christian scholars and Vatican will confess islam as true religion , oh come on, that is not in their intrest.

God said in qoran:

29. Nay, the wrong-doers (merely) follow their own lusts, being devoid of knowledge. But who will guide those whom Allah leaves astray? To them there will be no helpers.

.... them will I turn away from My signs: Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them; and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way; but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt. For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them.

147. Those who reject Our signs and the meeting in the Hereafter,- vain are their deeds: Can they expect to be rewarded except as they have wrought?



/if christian scholars see miracles of islam they should avoid them

brother fearman, i will tell you something now, i am 100% sure that you will regret on the day of judgemanet because you did not became muslim. If you all bacame muslims it is for you own best and you should be true followers of Jesus, because Jesus was muslim.

God said in qoran:

1. A. L. R. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear.

2. Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to Allah.s will) in Islam.

3. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them).

22. Every time they wish to get away therefrom(from hell), from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!"

23. Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk.

24. For they have been guided (in this life) to the purest of speeches; they have been guided to the Path of Him Who is Worthy of (all) Praise.

borther fearman do what you want but you will remember me on the day of judgement what i have said to you , and may be God call me as vitness against you on the they of judgement, you shall not have any excuse in front of God that you did not know anything about his book qoran or his prohpet muhammed.

God said in qoran:

52. Say: "See ye if the (Revelation)(Qoran) is (really) from Allah, and yet do ye reject it? Who is more astray than one who is in a schism far (from any purpose)?"

/can you imagine if qoran is from allah and that everything what qoran says is true, how shall you save yourself, may be you say jesus shall save me

look at those verses

Gd said in qoran:

116. And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

117. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.

118. "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servant: If Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise."

think about what i said to you, and if you dont believe me
be witness that i am muslim.

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Old 3rd July 2003, 19:10
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Well, I have done some research on Islamic miracles as documented by Muslims, and they aren't all that impressive: Allah writing his name on vegetables an honqycombs, and a mathematical pattern in the Quran that doesn't work unless you fudge the numbers.

I think on the day of judgment you will regret not being Christian. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14)
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Old 3rd July 2003, 19:14
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ok, we will see what will happend on the day of judgement.



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