Interesting conspiracy theory that ties-in with religion...take a look...

[thespitfiredragon]

First of all I recommend that all of you track down copies of the "Montauk" series books by Preston Nichols (some of the books are co-authored by Peter Moon). The first book in the series "The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time" was both information and perplexing. I highly recommend it. However, this post is focusing on the second book in the seires: "Montauk Revisited: Adventures in Synchronicity"...

Anyway, "Montauk Revisited" deals with the "occult forces" that were behind the original Montauk Experiment. The book is filled with and details the involvement of recognizable characters like Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, L. Ron Hubbard, etc.

There's a part in the book (it may be useful to point out that these books are non-fiction, by the way) where a man gives an account of being brainwashed (he has since recovered, etc.) The man was trained and then sent back in time to shoot Jesus Christ, and collect a vial of His blood.

Why would they want his blood? Well, because they were taking a man named Duncan Cameron (you are introduced and get to know Duncan in the first book) and "grooming" him to be the anti-Christ. Because they acknowledged that Christ was powerful they wanted to inject Duncan with His blood so that he would have Christ's power.

From the point-of-view of a devout Christian like myself I'm wondering why anyone would want to shoot themselves in the foot and prevent the atonement, and even the existance of Christ. Well, maybe you have to be diabolically evil to understand...

Okay, so this guy goes back to the time when Jesus was alive, catches him alone, and Jesus tells the guy that he knows he's come to collect his blood and to kill him. Jesus furthermore tells him that it is not time for Him to die yet so he won't be allowed to kill him. The guy empties a revolver into Christ, but to no avail. However, when the man provides a vial, Christ offers His blood freely.

The man goes back to the present, but decides that he doesn't want to hand over the blood of Christ. Ultimately he is tricked and hands the blood over to Duncan Cameron. Duncan is injected with Christ's blood which....(gasp!) makes him a completely different person....a NICE person. So that experiment went on without Duncan who refused to participate.

Did anyone else see that coming? They must not have heard that old Baptist hymn, "What can wash away my sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus. What can make me whole again? Nothing but the blood of Jesus."

Now, right off you're going to say that this is absurd...I did. But after reading the books and seeing the "proof" produced by the authors I can't tell you 100% that there isn't SOMETHING to it.

Questions? Comments? I'm really interested in talking about this...

Maybe Tom has read the books? I know he's a book nut like I am... Tom?

[thespitfiredragon]

What I forgot to mention is that the copy of "Montauk Revisited" that I bought from Amazon.com is incomplete. Right in the middle of Chapter 29 (page 119) the book reprints pages 129 through 159 followed by the Epilogue (page 225). These missing pages are crucial to the book. Why are they missing? Do we have another conspiracy?

Until next time...

Your Conspiracy Queen...thespitfiredragon

[thespitfiredragon]

You can get more "supporting" information on this subject by listening to Coast to Coast with George Noory (successor to Art Bell). That's in America, but I would imagine that Noory is broadcast elsewhere...

[HollyElise]

oh, please don't tell me you are getting sucked in to thinking any of this is credible! ?

Conspiracists... you know, a good used car salesman can be very convincing and sell a lot of lemons but it doesn't mean the cars will run!

[thespitfiredragon]

I'm a skeptic about it, but you've really got to read the books. Plus, I know from people that were on the inside of cetain situations that the government doesn't always disclose the truth to the public. The books provide some REALLY interesting data.

Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, and L. Ron Hubbard were KNOWN to be involved in some really crazy stuff. Why they wanted to bring forth the anti-Christ I have no idea. But they were actively up to something spooky in the way of the black arts.

Besides....doesn't it just tickle your mind with little "what if"s?

[HollyElise]

They were actively up to heavy drugs too, Spitfire.

Many "real" and quite popular theories are revealed as farcical with time.

Take crop circles, for instance. People were going on this for decades, believing it was conclusive evidence of alien visitation and sucking it in. Many very reputable scientists also testified that it could not be reproduced by unsophisticated means and they supported the theory of it the circles being evidence of extra-terrestial life visiting earth, and they provided "conclusive" independent evidence.

many people still believe the circles are created by aliens, particularly because of the Mel Gibson movie.

But the two guys who started this and who've been doing it as a prank all this time, finally publically disclosed how they've been doing it, i believe with nothing more than a board and a rope. To them it just got funnier and funnier that they had a lot of very intelligent, educated people around the world believing it was aliens.

When you are looking at theories... i think it's a good suggestion to review the lives of the people involved in the theory as part of your analysis of credibility. Alistair Crowley not only was an addict, but he also was quite abusive towards women and a sexual addict. L. Ron Hubbard is also known for his pyramid scheme where he fleeced tens of thousands out of their money. Are these the kind of people who's opinions you want to believe?

[thespitfiredragon]

No, no, HollyElise, you misunderstand...I'm the last person to believe in what people like Crowley and Hubbard, etc. were doing. I was refering to data given about their "evil scheme" or whatever you wish to call it. Their data is not the data I'm speaking of. Nor are/were Preston Nichols and Peter Moon (authors of these books) directly involved with what Crowley, Hubbard, and Parsons were doing. They're giving information on how what they (Crowley, etc.) were doing effected the Montauk Project.

"Real" crop circles are not done with rope and a board. In "real" crop circles the wheat (or whatever it is) isn't simply flattened...it's intricately braided and then flattened. Also there's a strange electro-magnetic field inside the circles...instruments don't work correctly...animals are sensitive to it as well. And no, I didn't get my data from "Signs"...though I did see it.

And the two guys that "started" the whole crop circle phenomenon....disinformation junkies. I'm not saying that ALL of the crop circles were real, as some were definitely hoaxes, but I believe SOME of them were real.

Why doesn't the government want us to know about all this? Mass panic. They saw what "War of the Worlds" did...they don't want that again. That's where the whole "we're friendly aliens that wouldn't hurt a fly" campaign came in. That way, if something were to get out people would be less likely to panic as they did in the past. Still there would be panic of course and that's why the government has such a tight lid on it. One person is smart...but PEOPLE are stupid. One person may not panic, but group hysteria is a probable expectation.