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Old 9th June 2003, 00:54
Fear_nam_Beanntan Fear_nam_Beanntan is offline
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Originally posted by ANDY-J2
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of
their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor
fill the face of the world with cities.
DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the chil-
dren, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers:
every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
A clear and unambiguous contradiction.

Fear nam Beantann,
You provided alternative explanations for the various texts which I cited which while proving satisfactory to you do not completely refute my arguments in particular your reasoning for the various discrepancies in the Pentateuch does not seem satisfactory to me and I will be dealing with that in due course.However you conveniently ignored the above texts which were perhaps the most blatant contradictions out of those which I posted.Do you have an explanation for this glaring discrepancy?
From the website I gave you a link to:

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Children are punished for the sins of the parents
[Ex 20:5]
Children are not punished for the sins of the parents
[Ezek 18:20]

Are children punished for the sins of the parents?
Exo. 20:5 tells us that God is to be feared, as He has the ability to visit the sins of the fathers on the children.

Ezek. 18:20 tells us this will not happen if the children repent and turn away from the ways of their fathers. Not a contradiction. --MAW
Your two opposing quotes probably have a similar explanation. It's likely that their meanings were clearer in the original Hebrew. In Isaiah 14:21 it is implied that the children were continuing the sins of their fathers. If they weren't doing so, they would be blameless, which is what Deuteronomy 24:16 says.

When God calls Himself the God of Moses's fathers, He is not saying that He is only the God of Moses's fathers. This is an expression meaning that He is the God of Moses's entire people/nation. Likewise, when Isaiah speaks of "the iniquity of their fathers," he is most likley refering to the "ways of their fathers" which were practiced by the entire nation.
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Old 9th June 2003, 11:25
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Red face AndyPandy

Oh Andy U sound like a Real Man,!! with ur use of the P... Word! Whatsamatter Baby,? me no agree 2 stroke ur Ego........I shall contintue 2 post as I see fit! So dont b such a big bully! I bet ur really an AndyPandy in "Real Life" Chill oot fellow!My sympathy to ur long suffering girl friend!LOL
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Old 9th June 2003, 14:18
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Originally posted by BatEl
Oh Andy U sound like a Real Man,!! with ur use of the P... Word! Whatsamatter Baby,? me no agree 2 stroke ur Ego........I shall contintue 2 post as I see fit! So dont b such a big bully! I bet ur really an AndyPandy in "Real Life" Chill oot fellow!My sympathy to ur long suffering girl friend!LOL
BatEl,
You really are a shining wit-as Doctor Spooner might say.
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Old 10th June 2003, 14:24
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Lightbulb Andys Doc.

Its not might say, its might have said!LOL What medicatation did he put u on now???A Shinning Wit, yes I think I can live with that, its better than being called a Dull TwitLOL
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