Behind every great man, is a woman.

[HollyElise]

hahaha. i think you have a point about challenging each other. It's an odd balance, though.

Just my opinion... but i think way too many women are nags... sometimes even to the point where their family doesn't listen to them anymore because they say negative things most of the time and order everybody about. To me... that isn't being challenging, it's just being a nag.

I did have one relationship though where the guy really challenged me on a regular basis. The best way i can describe it is he seemed to know exactly when to comfort and when not to coddle but instead he'd poke fun... sort of, "oh so you CAN'T do that?!" It would irk me so i found i grew a lot and i really loved him for it, too. I hope when i find someone special to be with for life that he is like that, too.

[druid1616]

I by challenging I didn't mean an old hag lol. No I mean somone who can make sumone want to better themselves. Like somone whose strong willed has goals knows her mind likes to try new things keeps em guessing same with guys they should be like that for the women.
well we'll be not nagging hag buddie slol I can't stand women liek that. I normlay tell them to stfu. my friend johns babys mom is always grilling him and then me about if he's hooked up with anyone or where he's been bla bla bla its so annoying.

[HollyElise]

She sounds insecure, and druid, and no one can really "see into" other people's relationships. You know your friend one way, but they know each other more closely, and we don't know what has gone between them concerning trust or the breaking of it.

But back to the other... do you really think someone can MAKE someone want to better themselves?

I don't think we can. I think, if the other person wants to better themselves and you encourage them to change in the way they would like to change... then it will work. It's like putting a plant in good soil and light and watering it well...the plant wants to grow so you put it in good conditions and it grows well. Most of us want to do a whole bunch of things, we just don't believe in ourselves enough. And if you have someone you love and respect encouraging you, then you just might feel good enough to do it. If instead it isn't in a person's nature to try to better themselves, or if you try to make them grow in a way they don't wish to, then at best it will work only temporarily and then they'll revert back to their original behavior as soon as the pressure lets up (as in trying to get someone to quit drinking or compulsive shopping or getting them to earn more money or study hard). And to persist in trying to make someone change in a way they don't want to change is my definition of a nag. Nags don't care what the other person wishes for themselves, they care what they want out of the other person. They don't seem to care how unpleasant they get, and they aren't wise enough to know when they aren't going to win.

Even when we aren't nags, i think every person falls into trap once in a while of trying to get someone to change in a way they don't really want to change. But i think we bring unhappiness on ourselves for trying.

[WeeButtons]

Originally Posted by HollyElise

Do you think it's true that behind every great man is a woman?

Is a women Rolling her eyes





Sorry couldn't resist lol.....

lmao