Is romance dead?

[druid1616]

goofyness never goes away I know cuz believe me mine never will.
hmm does any of ur local radio stations play pranks phone calls cause you could set up one of those..I have alot of mean ones but I'm pretty sure your not looking to make ur friends angry or cry hm....
I know play match maker and be like I have the perfect guy for you and set her up with a total geek unattractive loser guy then have another date lined up for them who is gorgeous and nice that way she won't completly hate you..haha
Or you can throw a party(if any of ur friends is particularly prudish have her answer)but higher a male stripper dressed as a police man have him bang on the door you all say what huh but we were having tea! jk of course taquila! but yes then give him instructions to take who ever answers the door(the prude one) to a chair and start striping right away haha that'd be awsome.
or you could just get her a coach bag thats really a fake...course I don't know when you'd get around to telling her it wasn't real you'd probably end up guilting yourself cuz you'll see how much she loves it and end up buying a real one switching it and end up getting the fake bag and then she'll just get bag that you now both have the same mad..scratch that I'll think of another one lol.

[HollyElise]

The date thing could be mean on the geek, or i'd do it in a trice.

My friend Mark has been a flake to me this week, i think because he has a crush on a certain woman who doesn't seem to be very interested in him except to give her rides to the airport, feed her cat, etc. She only calls him when she wants him to do something for her. Anyway, Mark has been not showing up when we arrange to do stuff because of the girl, so i think he's the one i want to set up a prank for.

[druid1616]

you could just flak eon him or tell him ur goign sumwhere an dthen when he finaly pulls through it coudl end up being a scottish step dancing class or or sq dancing. or tell him ur goiung to a strip club but then take him to an all male one. um im sorry but he sounds liek her *****. my old friends use this guy liek that he gets them beer liquar weed, X everything and they use him fo rhis house its disgusting hes liek 43 too. I refused to hang out with him hes creepy.
You should tell the guy he's being used. liek bluntly even if he does get pisse dna dnot want to hear it at least you'll of done ur job of watchign otu fo rhim.

[HollyElise]

I have told him... repeatedly. The last time was when this same woman asked him to take her to the airport on her flight to Brazil and he had to get up at 4 a.m. and drive an hour to get to her house when she's only a few minutes from the airport and could have taken a cab... but wait... it gets even better.... so the afternoon before her flight he calls her to find out the exact time and she's with her boyfriend making out and he's interrupting so she says she'll call him back and never does over the next 12 hours... so he didn't even know if he was still taking her to the airport which means he didn't know if he had to get up at 4 a.m., etc! Can we say, "waltz me around by my willy!"?

He's also like this with other women but in particular a woman he thinks of as the love of his life. She dumped him and slandered him horribly, and now she's working her way back into his life and he's happy as a clam but i'm pretty sure she's just toying with him. She also used to be one of my closest friends until i realized how deep her selfishness ran with everyone. In some ways she's sweet... but she's... well.... she uses people. Last Christmas she was in high form but when she was the means of separating a child from his father Christmas morning so he could do something for her it was the last straw for me. I was with the kid that morning... can you imagine a 12 year old boy who's so disappointed his father isn't there that he won't even look in his stocking Christmas morning? It was the saddest thing, and i'm still mad at S that it was all because she wanted to take a sewing machine with her on a trip and that took precidence over anyone else's happiness. (Can you tell i'm still mad about it?)

I've tried explaining to Mark that he's behaving like a doormat and isn't going to get the kind of respect he wants from women until he's willing to stand up for himself and how he should be treated... but he just doesn't get it. He is a great guy, but spineless. He can't make a decision like "paper or plastic?" without agonizing over the decision, so you can see his problem is systemic. I'm trying to help him with his self esteem and encouraging him to be more decisive in all his choices and hopefully that will eventually help him in relationships.

Dance won't work... he's always trying to get me to go dancing with him. The last thing he suggested was we take salsa lessons. I think if i even said i want to learn tap dancing or the Polka he'd be enormously happy. What a puppy he is! Now i could lure him with the promise of dancing... but for what? Head shrinking i suppose! hhahahahah.

[druid1616]

Not to be to foward but it sounds like you might like this mark character. It just seems like your mad about the way woman treat him cause you know you could probably treat him better Or it is what it is and your just looking out for a friend but it does sound like you like him...
AS for your ex friend. I agree total *****, taking away a father on christmas is rediculous and you should be just as mad at the father for letting her do it.
I think the mark thing if he doesnt want to better himself and find self esteem and get respect form women then thats the way he wants to live his life and you should let it go and be happy living yours and not having to worry about him. He's a grown man he'll see the light sooner or later but you can't force him to. But you could keep him busy so that he get's off of these two *****y women.

[HollyElise]

I do like Mark... but as a friend, i wouldn't want to date him myself... i've just known him too long and he's more like a brother... i just can't get excited. Actually i'm not so mad at the women, as i am irritated with him for being a doormat. I can't eliminate the world of people who take advantage (or i would for my own sake!), but i could help him not be a doormat if he was willing to try. I'd like to give him credit for one day becoming enlightened on his own... but you know how dense people can be when it comes to getting used or abused.... often it carries on waaaay too long.

I just talked to him tonight, though, and found out the girl actually was very sick!!! She had a very bad kidney infection and was throwing up for three days and in lots of pain, so she really did need help, and i even wound up passing along some suggestions to her myself, as i had a kidney infection long ago and learned some things to do that help a lot to alleviate the pain and get well faster, and she thanked me for it. I do feel for her... kidney infections are no laughing matter.

The Christmas thing... it actually wasn't the guy's fault, he was just trying to be nice. He's actually a very involved and loving father. The other person to blame for it was ME! I volunteered the guy to get her to the airport that morning, so he was really doing it because i asked him to. I just had NO IDEA that the girl would expand an inconvience to us into a MAJOR inconvenience. It should have taken less than an hour, and we planned it so he'd be back well before his son woke up. The girl as you know, wanted to take a sewing machine but WE didn't know that..... and her trip was only four days, two of which the travel days... she never did use the sewing machine on her trip as anyone with sense could have predicted. She didn't want to check it as baggage and knew the airline policies might forbid it as carry on, but she didn't call ahead to find out if they would or wouldn't before leaving to the airport with it. And she wouldn't spring for $2 to put it in a locker if she couldn't take it as carry on... she wanted HIM to stay so IF they wouldn't let her take it as carry on, he could drive it back. So only after they were at the airport did she beg the guy to wait until she could board the plane.... which because the plane was delayed, added an hour and a half to his absence. Confusing, i know, but in other words she had SEVERAL OTHER WAYS of handling the situation: she could have not taken it, she could have called ahead, she could have checked it as baggage, or could have left it in a locker if they wouldn't take it. She even could have asked when they FIRST arrived at the airport. Also of note... she never gave a christmas card, gift, or thank you to either the guy, his son, or me!... i also had her over for Christmas Eve dinner... and i went to great lengths to prepare a meal that met her very lengthy dietary restrictions, and she gave me a hard time about it before eating it!!!!!!!!!!! And i gave her gifts. So you see... it was pretty manipulative on her part, and completely self centered... so it was just the LAST STRAW! I actually sincerely feel sorry for her.

[druid1616]

He'll get over it and want to be treated right sooner or later.

and OOOOOOOOUch well....going of wut ur saying that is..

Dumb ***** smack her.