Is it possible to become a Scottish citizen?

[Celyn]

Originally Posted by druid1616

Ummm... So I just came in because I was curious and found a hornets nest lol....

No, I don't think I would call it that. It certainly did not start off that way. Did you read the whole thread?

Originally Posted by druid1616

Not that I know what has been going on...

Ah, perhaps not.

Originally Posted by druid1616

But I would just like to ask why it is that some natives have such an issue with imigration I know about the job's and all of that and not wanting them taken away but The US and other countrys deal with imigration everyday....

Nobody is saying "do not immigrate": when asked *how* it can be done, we provide links to the appropriate official sites, and Katekidd, especially, has been very useful, having moved here from the U.S.A not *very* long ago. Immigration rules are tiresome and tedious. Such things tend to be. "The US and other countrys deal with imigration everyday", you say? Well, yes, and so does the U.K.

Originally Posted by druid1616

I was just wondering as to why some people who live in scotland not only get annoyed but angry at the thought of people moving to a country that for whatever reason they fell in love with.

Which posts in this thread support your assertion there? Was somebody saying "on no, don't come here", or was somebody saying "oh, no, such a lot of tiresome rules"?

I hardly think it would be wise to allow people to remain unaware of immigration rules, proceed with their plans and *then* have the nasty surprise of unpleasant talks with immigration officers.

If I decided I suddenly wanted to move to the U.S.A., I think I'd want to check things very carefully. I suspect I would also find that I would not be permitted to emigrate to the States.

Originally Posted by druid1616

But I did find a nice loops hole lol My great grand mother was from Ireland so I might be able to move there ...............

Ah, if you had Irish citizenship, then, as an E.U. citizen of course you could move to Aberdeen any time you wanted. (Why Aberdeen, as a matter of interest? Babz lives there: you might like to talk to Babz).

Of course you would be checking the Irish laws as well, wouldn't you? I tend to think that the Irish great-grandmother would only be useful if one of your parents had registered as an Irish citizen prior to your own birth.

[teashoci]

the fact that scotland has a death rate higher than our birth rate, which will be an economical nightmare the next few decades i think we could benifit from an influx of immigration.
can any one tell me any disadvantages of this because i dont see any.

[druid1616]

teashoci ur awsome lol.But why is it higher?

Celyn
Which posts in this thread support your assertion there?

I've been on this site for quite sometime and have seen more then one heated opinion about Americans or anyone imigrating to Scotland. My statment was not wholly based off of some of the heated responses off of this thread.
And yes I did go back and read the whole thread.
Everyone can Imigrate here. It's not always easy but seriously I guess you have to be here to see that America isen't made up of people born here Americas made up of people from different countries who have come to live here. Im my school alone I have friends from Haiti, Brazil, Jamaica, Uganda and other parts of Africa, Mexico, China, Korea and I have two friends that came from Russia or around that part Along with some Caverdian friends There for that's my reasoning in not finding it a big deal for different cultures to live together. I don't see it as they come here and take our jobs They come here to try to better their lives so what gives anyone the right to say no. I like not to view them as our jobs I feel people should view them as everyones jobs. I think its everyones right to live some place that makes them happy builds their character and where they can try to better their life.
I get your point about IMigration laws and how tedious and hard they are to get by but why can't peopel have a dream. They listen I listened when I was told it wouldn't be that easy. I just don't see a reason in having to bite somones head off for it because it's hard for them to believe at first. Of course they'd vent about their life long dream and what's wrong with it. I'm still trying to find a loop hole but the only one I have is marriage which I hate the thought of and would never use somone for that whether I loved them or otherwise so I guess I'll have to deal with yearly trips or w/e.
I get you guys are sick of repeating yourselves..then don't that's what copy & past was made for.. As for moving to Ireland..damn! My grand father was from there and my mom doesn't knwo much about him but his name..so I guess that won't work. I'd go on a swearing streak but it'd only be blocked out anyway...ok ttul

[SherbrookeJacobite]

The point being made by the Scots on here is that it is just as difficult to immigrate to the USA as it is to Great Britain. Your point that "anyone can come here" is not quite true. There are lots of hoops to jump through. If anyone could come there, then there would be no need for the Border patrols along the Mexican border, arresting people who want to come to the US every day. Great Britain does accept immigrants. There are lots of other cultures represented in Great Britain - you will find people living there from every part of the world - just as you have in the US. You just have to find out what the rules are and follow them.

I think what irriatates the locals (Scots) - and this isn't directed at you Druid, you were just asking a question - is the attitude of some Americans, who seem to think that they should have some special status, and be able to move to wherever they want, when they want. They seem shocked that they wouldn't be permitted to do so. The reality is that there are rules to be followed, and they are no more complicated or difficult than the rules for someone wanting to live in America.

Like everything else - if you are wealthy, you can pretty much live wherever you want. You just need to be able to show the government that you will never be a burden to them.

[teashoci]

is life not a bit to short for this ?, i am not irritated by americans thinking our immigration laws are more relaxed than they actually are.

[druid1616]

SherbrookeJacobite
I think what irriatates the locals (Scots) - and this isn't directed at you Druid, you were just asking a question - is the attitude of some Americans, who seem to think that they should have some special status, and be able to move to wherever they want, when they want. They seem shocked that they wouldn't be permitted to do so

I have to say that I was the same way. I had no Idea. I mean I knew it was strict for other countrys to move around but I figured they want Americans to come..it means buisness not that other countrys don't bring buisness but Americans tend to buy excess things and waste money and are serious impulse buyers (me anyone). Thats just what we're fed by the things we see around. Plus america follows these famous people closely through magazines and they have houses all over the world They even buy freakin Islands!. We know they have money we're just not paying attention and looking into the legal processes that they have to go through. So they make it look easy which makes us not realize how hard it is. Its a misconception that should be fixed but we get our ideas mostly from the media like everything else. We don't mean to be shocked or to annoy you by assuming but thats just how things seem to us. Or to me and the other "shocked at first" americans.

[dannsadh2]

Originally Posted by katekidd

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I have been surprised to find that I have more disposable income than I ever did in the States.

I live in a far smaller space than I did in the US...I have far fewer *things* than I did in the US...we don't own a car...we don't have a drier(!). And you know what? I love it! I love that we have a small fridge, and only buy what we need each week. I love that my husband and I walk to work together every day. I love that I can recycle almost everything we use. I love that I am living more simply and more heathily than I ever have before.

So before you make the mistake of comparing the expense of living in the UK unfavorably with the US, you must take into account the difference of lifestyle and priorities. No, you won't be able to afford a huge 'McMansion' in the UK. You might not be able to have as much stuff. But if your priorities lie in quality of life, good holidays, more time with your family, GOOD HEALTHCARE, I think the UK offers just as much, if not more, than the US does.

I agree, we seem to have more surplus income as well. Though we do have an American sized fridge and have a drier, though we do not use it often as we did back home in Canada.

Our housing expenses are less here.