Is it possible to become a Scottish citizen?

[dannsadh2]

Originally Posted by Polwarth

Kate
You are a sensible woman, who would undoubtedly find it easy to 'settle in' anywhere, because you have adapted to your surroundings.... AND you married a local! I think it would be much harder for two foreigners arriving here and having to adapt. I don't say it can't be done, just that it must be very hard at the beginning.

It is difficult. Quite the culture shock. Even though both my husband's parent's were born in the UK as was my mother and all our grandparents. I live in the town where my grannie was born.

There are so many small things that are different. Turning on the heat, flushing the toilet, words, figuring out how to contact the dvla, how do you get insurance without a uk driver's licence, not all numbers are in the phone book, noone says excuse me here, why is there no place for me to put my dryer, the telephone system, the banking system, CALL CENTRES!!!, what to do with all the eletrical items when they break down, smoking in public places, perfume *cough cough*, food, driving, tail gating, noone stops for you to cross the street ... even in the pouring rain, always having to clarify I'm Canadian.

[dannsadh2]

Originally Posted by Celyn

Nope. It's more complicated than that. You might be forgetting the nice muddle that can arise in the cases of people from Commonwealth countries, depending on who was born where, (very often when), and whether they took nationality of their own country after independence or whatever. Lot of lovely bureacratic muddle.

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Anyway, your scheme of things does seem a wee bit forgetful of all the mothers and grandmothers in the world. I think you meant "parent" or "grandparent".

I'll stop and hit submit, lest I have flashbacks to working in the Passport Office.

Actually because my mother NOT my father was born in the UK, I am ONLY entitled to a Right of Abode... if my father had been born here than I would have received my passport. ...... UNLESS I had been born a few years later. Doesn't seem quite fair, but just is.

Have to wait 5 years for citizenship.... BUT then my husband's father (both his parents) were born here so he was entitled to the passport.... and since he is automatically a ciziten and I am his wife I can apply for citizenship after 3 years, so I will do it under him rather than my own right.

MY children (not his) are here on my Right of Abode and are eligable for citizenship after two years...... pretty much now...... doesn't seem equitable, but there you go.

Now I come from a commonwealth country. I am sure it is different for the States.

[dannsadh2]

Originally Posted by druid1616

Ummm... So I just came in because I was curious and found a hornets nest lol.
Not that I know what has been going on... But I would just like to ask why it is that some natives have such an issue with imigration I know about the job's and all of that and not wanting them taken away but The US and other countrys deal with imigration everyday. I was just wondering as to why some people who live in scotland not only get annoyed but angry at the thought of people moving to a country that for whatever reason they fell in love with. Shouldn't it be a compliment I mean you guy's have a fascinating history. For a while I wanted to be a museum currator over in scotland.
I mean I wish I could move to Aberdeen so bad, but seeing as my calling seems to be in law inforcment I don't think that'll be able to happen..
But I did find a nice loops hole lol My great grand mother was from Ireland so I might be able to move there and you guys are so close ..if I can't live there I can certainly visit alot. It's a fresh Idea I'll have to look into it..(deep breaths polwarth, you don't want to have an anurism ) How are you anyway?

I'm having fun reading all these posts!

Most of the Scots I know are really nice people. I get along with all, but I know there are some that can't get along with the people in the next town, so why would they want to get along with someone from a different country.
There is a mentality that supports the Celtic vs Ranger conflict to the point where people actually loose their lives. Not sure what that is about.

Just because I was born in Canada doesn't mean I don't have a RIGHT to live in this country.

Polworth how would you feel if one of your children decided to move to Canada had a child born there, lived there long enough so that child developed a Canadian accent, and then the family decided to move home to Scotland? Would you consider your grandchild Scottish? Of course you would.

So why would it not be any different for those who live in the States whose families come from Scotland. They may have a desire to seek their roots. It is a very common desire.

In fact the government is encouraging people from Canada (I don't know about the states) to COME HOME to Scotland to HELP the economy. http://www.returntoscotland.com

Do you realize there are companies here in Scotland importing people from the continent, paticularly Poland to work in Scotland because there are not enough Scots for the jobs? Do you realize the employment rate in Scotland is lower than Canada?

No you will not be able to move to Canada unless you have an immediate family member there or are a professional that the Canadians want.

Not the same the other way around. Simply having heritage is enough to get you into this country... without a significant amount of money nor a university education.

[Polwarth]

There you go again! What have I done to you that you feel you have to pick me out from the other Scots to have a go about?

If my daughter went to Canada and married a Canadian, settled there and had children there.... Then no, her children would not be Scots - they would be the children of a Scot and a Canadian, would presumably have Canadian nationality and therefore be of dual nationality, should they wish to take advantage of it.


Who has said you do not have a RIGHT to live here? Not me. I don't know you or your personal circs. I have answered questions from US citizens as honestly as I (and others on here) can.

Don't try to tell me about the EU citizens working here... I am fully aware of it. They have as much right as any Scot to work here... just like I have the right to work in France or Spain or any other EU country. And good luck to them - I think it enriches our culture to have outsiders working and living here.

And it is false to say that 'simply having heritage' would allow people to settle in Scotland. That is not true. You have to have relatives no further back than a grandparent (in most cases)... - I would term that close family - hardly 'heritage' in the sense that many foreigners here mean, ie an ancestor maybe 150 and more years ago.

And by the way, my screen name is PolwArth - a suburb of my home city, Edinburgh.

[dannsadh2]

Be calm I was certainly only responding to comments you had made. Try not to be so negative... it may not be your intent, but certainly how you appear.

[Polwarth]

That's only your opinion, to which you are as entitled as I am to mine.
Think it's best if you ignore my posts and I'll certainly extend that courtesy to yours in future.

[dannsadh2]

Of course it is my opinion, who else's opinion would it be? You state the obvious. Consider biting your fingers first before posting little put downs to people. It is not very nice.