Comparing modern 'Northumbrian' with 'Scots'.

[Croi Sasanach]

How dee ?

Right, it seems there are plenty of words shared between Scots dialects and the dialects north of the Tees, east of the Pennines.

If you could confirm any of the following to be used in Scots aswell, t'would be a great help.

The words 'make/take' are pronounced 'mek/tek' in most of the north-east with the exception of Sunderland where it is pronounced 'mack/tack'. Do you have either or both of these variations in Scotland? if so, whereabouts for which ones.

The words 'blind/find' are pronounced with a short 'i' sound, as in the standard English for the word 'wind'. Do yous have this one?

The word 'go' is pronounced 'gan', do you have this?

[Polwarth]

Can only speak for myself, but....

I don't personally use mek/tek - but I 'hear' it.

The find/blind - nope not short 'i'.

Go is either 'go' or 'gae' - never heard 'gan' except from NE England.

[Croi Sasanach]

Cheers Polwarth, guess thats a 'no' in Edinburgh then..

Anyone else care to spare and share anymare?

[Celyn]

No from Glasgow too. Would you settle for "make/take" turning into "mak/tak"? But definitely no to the "find/wind" and "go/gan" ones. Oh wait a minute, some areas would say "gang" for "go". Is that near enough?

[Croi Sasanach]

Originally Posted by Celyn

No from Glasgow too. Would you settle for "make/take" turning into "mak/tak"? But definitely no to the "find/wind" and "go/gan" ones. Oh wait a minute, some areas would say "gang" for "go". Is that near enough?

Depends if mak/tak are homophones (doesnt mean a gay phone) with mack/tack.

these might not be 'excusive' to my part of the world, not sure, what about;

scullry = kitchen
netty = toilet
dolling off = to truant

[Polwarth]

Scullery is a pan-British word - goodness, they even had scullerymaids in past times!

[Celyn]

Originally Posted by Croi Sasanach

Depends if mak/tak are homophones (doesnt mean a gay phone) with mack/tack....

Yes, pretty much. I'm FAR too lazy to go looking for a sort of I.P.A. view on it.

Just for fun:

There's a nice wee lass and her name's Mary Mack,
Mak no mistake she's the miss I'm goin' tae tak'.
There's a lot of other chaps that would get upon her track,
But I'm thinking they'd have to get up early.

Chorus :
Mary Mack's faither's makin' Mary Mack mairry me.
My faither's makin' me mairry Mary Mack;
And I'm goin' tae mairry Mary tae get mairried an' tak' care o' me;
We'll a' be makin' merry when I mairry Mary Mack.

Originally Posted by Croi Sasanach

these might not be 'excusive' to my part of the world, not sure, what about;

scullry = kitchen
netty = toilet
dolling off = to truant

Scullery, yes.

"Netty" No, I don't *think* so, but I could be wrong there. I associate that one with your part of the world, but now I'm getting all tangled up trying to recall if I've read it in books set somewhere in Scotland as well. (Brain going slow - time for more Celyncoffee.

"Dolling off" No, but nearly the same. We (meaning time period = left school in 1978) said "dogging off" or "dogging it"*, and I don't know whether the weans still say that or say something else.


*Yes, I'm aware there is another meaning for "dogging". Oh, the strange stuff one learns from teh Internetz!