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[Duthill]

Just to bring us all up to speed

http://tinyurl.com/26w864j

[wullie m]

Like it!

[Crofter]

Duthill,

I can’t figure out why you go crying off to the administrators when your own insulting and usually more disgraceful mutterings fail to silence those whom you accuse. Credit the members with the intelligence to respond or ignore such people as they see fit. Unlike you, I do not have the time to follow everything that is posted round the clock. When I do have the time to catch up and attempt a response where I feel it necessary, I do not think it is right that I should be censored by the likes of you.

I was about to respond to a particularly offensive post from LangfordG, aimed at my part of the country, only to find that the thread was closed as a result of your whinging.

Here is my response to his post and hopefully he will take note of it. I do not seek a reply because I don’t believe he is capable of rational unbiased opinions.

LangfordG,

Can’t argue with the official statistics. As an Englishman, far from gloating, you should be ashamed of yourself. Any advantages that you think you have down south are not of your own making but based on vested self interest and the deliberate draining and starving of resources to the North for improvements and the chance of equality there.

For generations consecutive Westminster governments have guaranteed that the country’s wealth was distributed in such a way as to benefit the south of England. Their standard of living and quality of life, if you measure them in purely money terms, is consequently higher due to theft and greed always for more.

I’m not sure what point Wullie is trying to make when he says that Scotland is a more urbanised country than England with the bulk of the population living in or around the four cities. Of the Lowlands, one would assume he means. This cannot be put forward as an excuse for how then can he explain away London, whose urban population is twice that of the whole of Scotland. I can sympathise with his view that murder and suicide might be the only alternative for that urban population, and that this may explain why the figures are so high, but it is a sad reflection on the poor creutairan of those cities he refers to.

You then go on to pronounce on how dreary life in the Islands must be:

“I wouldn't begin to guest the kinds of things that would happen on those dreary windswept islands - with more sheep than people - such as Skye and Mull, especially when there's no proper nightlife to speak of.”

Here you are passing judgements on a part of the country you obviously know nothing about, where the quality of life, if you were to look on it in any other way than through the eyes of a grasping Sassenach, is better than you can ever imagine even in your wildest dreams.

If your idea of nightlife is drunken debauchery and the virtual no go areas for decent people of your inner cities and towns, and your idea of high standards of living is dog eat dog then you are welcome to it.

There is a serious gap in your knowledge of Scottish, and in particular, Highland and Island affairs. That is a sad reflection on the quality of your English education. I have nothing against the English per se but your brand of Holier than Thou Little Englander has no place on a site such as this. As someone else suggested, go find a Nazi one. There are enough on this site already who talk through a hole in their backside.

[Duthill]

Originally Posted by Crofter

Duthill,

I can’t figure out why you go crying off to the administrators when your own insulting and usually more disgraceful mutterings fail to silence those whom you accuse. Credit the members with the intelligence to respond or ignore such people as they see fit.

There are differences between my post and the posts of croftertroll.
The major one being that mine are not full of lies .
Truth is not an insult .

[Duthill]

Originally Posted by Crofter

Duthill,
I do not think it is right that I should be censored by the likes of you.

The correct word is censured .
If the troll 'crofter' valued education , and availed itself of some , it would have been taught that .

[wullie m]

I would think that it is a fact of life that crime rates the world over are higher in the cities than in the country. London's Metropolitan Police Force deal with situations unheard of out in rural Bucks. Crofter's own Detroit, one imagines, would have differing statistics to those in the Bible Belt. The Highland population continues to pile into Inverness, it has a high incidence of alcohol & driving problems, possibly due to lack of public transport for example, but a very high rate of alcohol depenency nevertheless. Suicide, I can assure her is not unknown in the Highlands unfortunately, and drug related problems reach from Caithness to Cornwall. Having spent much of my working life in the North I can honestly say that I've seen more fights in public houses there than in Glasgow. Salisburgh, in West Lothian, (former mining area) is statistically Scotland's most law abiding community, nobody knows why! There are greater opportunities generally,(including crime) in urban conurbations, common sense. As for "eating dogs", is there no end to this woman's stupidity!
When I say that Scotland is a more urbanised country than England I mean just that, the Scots live in cities, the countryside has a very low population density. London may have a population of ten million but there are fifty million people in England and the other half dozen great cities don't come anywhere near forty million.
Pronouncements from across the Atlantic are always welcome but try a little research first before posting. wullie.

[Lachlan09]

Originally Posted by Crofter

Duthill,
I have nothing against the English per se but your brand of Holier than Thou Little Englander has no place on a site such as this. As someone else suggested, go find a Nazi one. There are enough on this site already who talk through a hole in their backside.

He could try a Russian-based Nazi website called Brangulf or Brangolf which had a large collection of downloadable Third Reich marches and songs (eg Badenweilermarsch (March of the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler), Prussens Gloria, Panzerlied, Prinz Eugen Marsch, Hohenfriedberger Marsch (Frederick Der Grosse Marsch) and many more Nazi family favourites !

I heard the songs / marches etc but they get a bit boring after a few, so I downloaded Now That's What I Call Music 76 instead.

That raises a question - who had the best music for its military in WW2 ?