Three Cheers For PANZER POPE RATZINGER!

[Howard_Roark]

[b]German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the strict defender of Catholic orthodoxy for the past 23 years, was elected Pope on Tuesday despite a widespread assumption he was too old and divisive to win election.

[ANDY-J2]

Give it a couple of years until he pops his clogs then we can go through the same old rigmarole all over again.Orthodoxy triumphs over common sense.

[NovaBritannia]

If his electors possessed any variety of common sense then they wouldn't be part of the church, particularly the Roman Catholic church.

[Howard_Roark]

Originally posted by ANDY-J2
Give it a couple of years until he pops his clogs then we can go through the same old rigmarole all over again.Orthodoxy triumphs over common sense.

Don't you mean "Communist Sense" -- Comrade Andy of the Labour Party?

[ANDY-J2]

The Labour party no longer embodies the ideals of socialism and even before I became a supporter of independence I had become disillusioned with New Labour,although admittedly when I was younger and less cynical about politics than I am now I did consider becoming a member of the Labour party.

[Howard_Roark]

Originally posted by ANDY-J2
The Labour party no longer embodies the ideals of socialism and even before I became a supporter of independence I had become disillusioned with New Labour,although admittedly when I was younger and less cynical about politics than I am now I did consider becoming a member of the Labour party.

Socialist ideals?

And what would they be?

Robbing from the rich, middle class and poor to give to the self appointed elite?

Fidel Castro is the poster boy for Socialist Ideals -- One of the richest men in the world -- who rules over one of the poorest nations in the world.

So that's what you want for Scotland?

I guess we could call it "Socialist Realism."

[ANDY-J2]

In many respects I am conservative in my views-probably even more conservative than you on some issues.My concept of socialist ideals has nothing to do with any corny political ideology and is limited to a desire to see equality of opportunity and social justice for everyone in society without regard to race,gender or social status.That means access to high standard education for all regardless of income and free universal health care.A well educated and healthy population is one which is better motivated and productive.We have at present in the UK a chancellor who unlike some of his predecessors pursues socialist economic policies even although the Labour party has ditched many of the more radical socialist principles on which it was founded and guess what-our country hasn't collapsed and our economy is outstripping those of our competitors so socialism works provided it is underpinned with common sense and a real desire to create a better and more equal society.