Should Shinn Fein be allowed in politics ?

[ANDY-J2]

Originally posted by SherbrookeJacobite

I hope that was a typo!

Or a Freudian slip perhaps?

[wild-in-tent]

True. But as an Irish person whose family hails mostly from Southern Ireland but note has a branch in NI and England I will say this....at one time the struggle was for good reason. The Irish etc were mistreated and were even Slaves who were beaten to death...there was a reason the Irish were teed at what they considered the traitorous Irish in the North backing the enemy. Their points were valid. But nowadays since the Separation in the South and indeed since Ghandi proved a huge point using Irish Bobby Sands tactics...what is the point of us continuing to support a group that has forgotten its vision and became a bunch of drug running gun running thugs that even so far as got involved in activities in South America....what does SA bloody have to do with Ireland? Or the struggle of the Celts against mistreatment as a whole? We went to America became strong and President Kennedy got respect back for the people followed by others the world over...do we honestly have to continue to support nefarious channels? Or rather do we start using our noggins as Celts and use different means to make our point?




Sinn Feinn are the political branch that do not condone the IRA's terrorrism officially but have had dealings with them in reality.

[Scottish_Republican]

Originally posted by SirKnight1788
Well should they with their Nazi tactics such as having their own private army used to bully those that will not follow their ideals. One could make a compare the IRA with the SA. They also have the same ideas as the NSDAP such as ethnic cleansing.

You'll have to learn how to spell "Sinn Fein" first...

[NovaBritannia]

Originally posted by cudubh
"They also have the same ideas as the NSDAP such as ethnic cleansing."

Examples please.
You could site dozens of media reports of Catholics, Asians, Chinese being driven from there homes in areas under the control of Brit loyalists.

so by that definition, the english are not about independence to ireland and the colonies, they can easily re-take most of it.
And when was the last BBC or MI6 bombing of the IRA ?
What about the pro-english abusing 'their' communities with by running virtually every working class protestants as their personal serfs ?

I do not know the people who made the above posts and I can make no judgement on their characters but I can only imagine what goes on in a mind that can ponder up such ignorance.

You basically accuse me of supporting terrorists (whether they fly a red hand or a tricolour matters not to me) because you are too ignorant to imagine a world where terrorism does not exist in Northern Ireland! What possible justification have you for implying I support so-called ‘Loyalists’? It really is pathetic and if all you bring to this message forum is a simplistic ‘us and them’ mentality then I strongly advise you stop posting, go and see the misery caused by paramilitarism and hopefully broaden your horizons a bit in the process.

If you’re going to come back with some drivel about “so how come you mentioned the IRA by name and not Loyalists” - the simple fact is that it’s irrelevant to this thread. We’re speaking about Sinn Fein and the IRA come up because they have links with Sinn Fein and are what is keeping them from being a legitimate democratic political party.

To quote the Portadown News on the subject of ‘Loyalists’: "Their only loyalty is crime"

Oh, and cudublah: Don’t even try to defend the IRA on here because I WILL show you up as a moron for trying. The IRA have killed, maimed, slaughtered and attempted to ethnically cleanse - and they’re no nicer to the Asians than the ‘Loyalists’ are.

the pro-english

LMAO. I’ve heard a lot of things in my time, but labelling the Unionist community in Northern Ireland ‘pro-English’ is now a new part of my political humour repertoire.

There is a clear distinction between 'good and bad' 'they were wrong and we were right' only in fantasyland. There is a clear distinction between 'good and bad' 'they were wrong and we were right' only in fantasyland.

Let me illustrate for the morally retarded:
-Murder, beatings, drug dealing, causing unaccountable misery = bad
-trying to stop it = good.

[DistantCelt]

-Murder, beatings, drug dealing, causing unaccountable misery = bad
-trying to stop it = good.

and you can say with ABSOLUTE certainty that the Unionists/pro-English factions in Northern Ireland have never dabbled in that sorta activity, eh ?

[NovaBritannia]

Oh. Dear. God.

Did you even read my bloody post?!?!

Let me spell it out: I DON'T BLOODY CARE WHAT LOYALISTS IN NORTHERN IRELAND DO any more than I care about the comings and goings of neds in Glasgow!

Sometimes I don't know why I bother...

[DistantCelt]

well you better care for both sides of the story before you make a comment.
else you are just lacking knowledge and ill equipped to criticise.
remember the saying that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing ?
You still didnt answer to me if the royal family and various political parties in england have paid their dues to the society like you are askin of sinn fenn.
consistency consistency, sil vous plait !