Scotland the Brave???

[k-macman]

I was curious to see this topic, as I didn't think (a common mistake), that their was any humans rights problems in Scotland.

I would appreciate some information regarding any group of people that have been discriminated in Scotland (other than the usual racists, who hate anything that doesn't look and act like themsleves).

Is it people from the Orkneys that are being repressed? Is it a religous thing? Is it an influx of asulym seekers?


Serioulsy, I would be very interested in learning about this topic. Please give feedback!


Thanks and Peace Out!


Sincerely,
Kurt
Apple Valley, Minnesota, USA

[HollyElise]

Hi k-macman.

I should think there are human rights issues virtually everywhere there are at least a thousand humans. i'm American, so my knowledge of Scotland is more limited, but my take on it is the main human rights issues of concern in Scotland involve Scotland's relationship with England and the English, issues around "devolution," and Scottish independence, and so forth. From what i've seen on this forum, Scots' opinions of their relationship with England run full spectrum: "from we are all one country and get with the times!" to "we will never submit to English rule" and most opinions falling in between.

now i've likely put my foot in my mouth, but perhaps my clumsiness will interest Scots in replying to your questions and speaking for themselves!

[Talon]

I think most ethnic minorities are discriminated against no matter were you go in the world.. its human nature on'mass to hate what we dont understand.. what is different

and Glasgow is no different.. there is a large asian(indian, pakistani, chinese) presence in a couple of areas in Glasgow.. and of course they would say that they are not treated always with equal respect..and I would agree.. but within those areas the white people are the minority and they are treated with little respect from the Asian community.. I know.. I have witnessed and been a part of it many times... like i say we need few excuses or reasons to dislike someone..when I was younger I ran about in a gang...and we hated and fought regularly with the gangs round about us.. we all hated each other...we were all white.. if there is no ethnic reason.. we will make another..religion, street locations, some people from edinburgh and glasgow fight each other often.. accents..lol.. too short too fat... I am afraid its all part of the human condition.. both our weakness and our strength

[toddygirl]

Originally posted by HollyElise
Hi k-macman.

I should think there are human rights issues virtually everywhere there are at least a thousand humans. i'm American, so my knowledge of Scotland is more limited, but my take on it is the main human rights issues of concern in Scotland involve Scotland's relationship with England and the English, issues around "devolution," and Scottish independence, and so forth. From what i've seen on this forum, Scots' opinions of their relationship with England run full spectrum: "from we are all one country and get with the times!" to "we will never submit to English rule" and most opinions falling in between.

now i've likely put my foot in my mouth, but perhaps my clumsiness will interest Scots in replying to your questions and speaking for themselves!

HOLLy
Already sent an email in reply and basically your head is
so far back into the past from your example and your voice kidds of the future will only understand hate and thats not right. they need to learn that forgivness and humanity is one of the best ways to bring peace within our own communities. you sound like the greedy selfish politicians of today and they are all the same out for them selves. Read my other quote in international human rights to
Toddygirl

[Celyn]

Originally posted by toddygirl
...... you sound like the greedy selfish politicians of today and they are all the same out for them selves. Read my other quote in international human rights to
Toddygirl

.........

??!! ! - Not nice - no-I don’t don’t see that HollyElise is “greedy selfish”. Difference of opinion - fine, ad hominem attacks - not so fine, and don’t tend to lend moral weight to arguments in any case.

As regards the original post, I reckon that human rights need to be carefully watched in all countries, really.

In Scotland, a current issue, for example, might be that of the detention of asylum seekers, i.ie.

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[toddygirl]

Originally posted by Celyn

??!! ! - Not nice - no-I don’t don’t see that HollyElise is “greedy selfish”. Difference of opinion - fine, ad hominem attacks - not so fine, and don’t tend to lend moral weight to arguments in any case.

As regards the original post, I reckon that human rights need to be carefully watched in all countries, really.

In Scotland, a current issue, for example, might be that of the detention of asylum seekers, i.ie.

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I know all about that been fighting my case for 6 years now , but if people want the wrong reactions then they have got to accept peoples oppinions. epeacially when they attach the english and dont for get half scott we did not take part in whats gone on in the past and we take it personal, because people like my self will do anything to help any one. so people should refrain from tying people to the same brush.

[Celyn]

Originally posted by toddygirl
.......epeacially when they attach the english and dont for get half scott we did not take part in whats gone on in the past and we take it personal, because people like my self will do anything to help any one. so people should refrain from tying people to the same brush.

Nope, I don't see HollyElise making any "attach" on the English. And it is not clear to me whether you mean half attacking Scots, too, or what.

No need to attack other members, though. "Keep it fluffy", as the saying goes!