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Old 14th December 2001, 04:31
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Cool

good point so here we go

The oldest scotland Royal in my family line

Dongart King of Scotland
D.O.B. abt: 0600
died : 673



and the oldest King Ever in my line that we know of

Coel " Old King Coel " ( Coilus)
King of Britain
D.O.B. 0125
Died : 0170
Father : Cyllin of Britain
D.O.B. abt. 0099 and thats where my tree ends
after that its just myth's
there is the story that the Old king from Aurther's time and before
where of the family of Jason one of the 12 aposol's?????
Uncle to Jesus Christ and thats where some of the later kings of Scotland and England
make some of there clames to the rite to Rule or am i in error but i think not for this comes from
The Plantagenet Chronicles
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Old 14th December 2001, 08:28
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and ooooo bye the way


neil _cable

you are the first one not to be a dick
or.......... you are the first one to be sivel to me im this room
every one but you and the_bruce have ben just a bunch of asses
every one but a 2 or 3 ppl that is
you know how you are
every one but the ones iv ok you get the point

just asses just an ass
ok il be nice
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Old 14th December 2001, 12:17
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Bubba, it is sometime very difficult to know the tone of people's posts just from the way they are written so please don't jump to conclusions. I'm sure nobody has been deliberately nasty to you.
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Old 14th December 2001, 14:09
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Well Bubba you have me now, my memory banks can’t cope. I don’t go as far back as you do.

Lets start in the right order of appearance

Coel Hen, King of Northern Britain 350 - 420

Coel lived around the turn from the 4th to the 5th century; around the time the Roman’s went back to Italy. Coel imposed his power over the country, and is to be considered the first King in Northern Britain.

During Coel’s time, the Scotti tribe (Irish immigrants) began to settle the Western coast of Scotland around the Argyle area. Coel feared the two peoples would unite against the British, so he sent raiding parties across the northern border to stir up trouble between them. However, the Picts and the Scots united together, and they began to attack the British Kingdom of Strathclyde. Coel declaring all out war moved his army north to expel the invaders. Both Picts and Scots headed for the hills. Coel's army set up camp at Coylton alongside the Water of Coyle (Ayrshire). For a long time, Coel’s army were triumphant, and the Picts and Scots starved. Desperate, the Picts and Scots advanced on Coel's stronghold. Coel’s army were taken by surprise and overrun fleeing in all directions. Coel wandered the unknown countryside until he eventually got caught in a bog at Coilsfield and drowned. He was buried first in a mound at Coilsfield, and then moved to the church at Coylton. The year was about AD 420. After Coel's death, his Northern Kingdom was divided between his two sons, Ceneu and Gorbanian.


Old King Cole was a merry old soul
And a merry old soul was he.
He called for his pipe,
And he called for his bowl,
And he called for his fiddlers, three.
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The only thing I can say is Dongart (Eugene VI), King Of Scots was born about 630 in Scotland. Dongart was the son of Dongart also King of Scots who died 673 A.D. at the grand age of 73. Posibly the oldest man in the world at that point LOL. Dongart (Eugene VI) had a son named Findon (Eochaid II) who married Spondana. Findon died around 692 A.D. at around 100 years before the time of the Norse (Viking) invasion of Scotland.

This took place In the 8th century around 793, the Vikings, or plunderers from Norway, (initially), were attracted by the wealth of the Monasteries and the easy treasure to be found within.
Silver, gold and precious manuscripts were sources of great booty. Islands like Iona were frequent targets. In 806, the entire Iona community was murdered and plundered. The Monks of St. Ninian's Island, Shetland, were also attacked, and the monks, pre-warned, quickly buried all that was of value. The Monks hidden hoard, (from the Vikings), of 8th century gold and silver wasn't discovered until 1958. It is a dazzling display of gold and silver relics in remarkably good condition that is as impressive today, as it must have been to the treasure hungry sea raiders in the 8th , 9th and 10th centuries.

By the end of the 9th century the Vikings came to Scotland to raid and settle. It is curious that the Vikings settled so quickly in Scotland and Northern and east Ireland, and slower in England. Certainly resistance was just as fierce in Scotland and Ireland as it was in England. In general, none of the native British or English were able in any significant way, to stop the Northmen whatsoever. They appeared unbeatable, even when outnumbered. However, the Scots seemed to have something in common with the Viking and after a while intermarriages, both common and noble, with established clans took place in north Scotland (Caithness and Sutherland) and extensively throughout the Western Isles of Scotland, called the Inner and Outer Hebrides. To this day you can find Scottish Clans with direct Viking (Norse) descent. Clan Gunn in the North, Clan MacDonald of the Isles and Clan MacLeod (pronounced MacCloud) in the west mainland and Isles, along with other Clans (such as MacQueen and MacAulay are of Norse/Scot origin). They even spoke both Norwegian and Gaelic for several centuries in the Western Isles. All Clans of this unique heritage have a reputation as skilled fighters who seemed to live to fight. These same Clans were some of the earliest to use the longer swords and employ archers in their ranks.

The most likely reason for the massive numbers of Scandinavians looking for new lands is attributed to overpopulation in Norway, Sweden and Denmark, but the truth is we really don't know why the Vikings struck out.
The Norwegian or Norse Vikings, (the word Viking is believed to be derived from the Norse word "vik" meaning bay - since the Vikings used the longships so effectively in bays this seems possible), are the specific ethnic Viking that plundered then settled in Scotland and parts of Ireland. In about 800 A.D. they settled Jarlshof on the Shetland Islands; also Lewis, in the Hebrides, where over one hundred villages still have Norse names.

From the Scottish Western Isles the Norse/Scots (Gall-Gaels) settled large areas of Ireland; Iceland; The Isle of Skye, (next to the Scottish mainland); The Isles of Lewis and Harris (lands the Clans MacLeods of Lewis and Harris respectively that they eventually settled), and many other islands in and around Scotland, Ireland, and England.

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Old 14th December 2001, 23:37
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tell me its not sooooooo

but you are the man

ok iv got on for you


FERGUS ( Ungust) King of Picts
dob. abt 0735
Scotland
and his father
URGUST King of Picts
dob.. abt 0709????
Scotland


and iv got more whene your ready

heheheheheheheeh have fun
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Old 17th December 2001, 11:38
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Hi Bubba,
I got your email but when I replied I just got it sent back.
If you activate your mail in you Scot.com profile or mail me your own mail address I will be able to reply to your history question.

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