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Old 15th July 2012, 18:58
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The Plantation of Ulster was presented to James VI (of Scotland, I of England) as a joint "British", or English and Scottish, venture to 'pacify' and 'civilise' Ulster. Therefore at least half the settlers would be Scots. James had been King of Scots before he was King of England and needed to reward his subjects in Scotland with land in Ulster to assure them they were not being neglected now that James had moved his court to London. In addition, long-standing contact and settlement between Ulster and the west of Scotland meant that Scottish participation was a practical necessity.

Six counties were involved in the official plantation – Donegal, Coleraine, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Cavan and Armagh. In the two officially unplanted counties of Antrim and Down, substantial Presbyterian Scots settlement had been underway since at least 1606.

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Old 15th July 2012, 19:08
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England, on the other hand, were constantly engaged in terrorist invasions of Ireland since the time of Cromwell.

1) Weren't the Irish planning on invading the English Republic to re-install the monarchy?

2) Didn't the Irish massacre thousands of English Protestants in 1641?

3) Didn't Irish towns (notably Wexford and Waterford) act as bases from which Privateers had attacked English shipping during the 1640s?

If the answer to all these questions is "yes" (which it is) then you can see why Cromwell's men invaded Ireland. Why should the English Republic stand by and let the Irish invade and reinstall the monarchy? And the English were also getting revenge for numbers 2 and 3.

Funnily enough, the fact that the Irish planned on invading the English Republic before Cromwell's army ever stepped foot on Irish soil is very rarely mentioned. I wonder why? Inconvenient truth for the Celtic English-haters and Irish nationalists?
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tell us all how many Catholics where massacred during the reformation causing them to flee to Ireland to escape in the first place?


no need to tell us what wiki says....we all have computers
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Old 16th July 2012, 14:42
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I don't think any Catholics were massacred in England during the Reformation.

I do know, however, that Bloody Mary murdered over 200 Protestants in just 5 years and that 12,000 English Protestants were killed in Ireland in 1641, which was one of the reasons why Cromwell later invaded to get revenge.
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I don't think any Catholics were massacred in England during the Reformation.

I do know, however, that Bloody Mary murdered over 200 Protestants in just 5 years and that 12,000 English Protestants were killed in Ireland in 1641, which was one of the reasons why Cromwell later invaded to get revenge.
Try typing "Bloody Mary" 3 times and see if anything happens.
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Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary. Bloody Mary.
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I don't think any Catholics were massacred in England during the Reformation.

ermmmmmmmm

the only accurate bit that is "i dont think"

we know you dont
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