Culloden

[ShellyMacAskill]

Hi, im very interested in learning more about the battle of Culloden. I was wondering if the McLeod's were involved or the MacAskill's or if any one knew how i can get information on the battle.
Also are there any MacAskills out there? Im 21 and live in Australia and would love to get in contact with any relatives that live in Scotland, i know that we have family living in Skye.
Kind Regards everyone!

[scottishlover]

Hey Shelly...I know all about it, but it's kinda hard to explain. I CAN however, provide you with numerous websites ABOUT Culldena nd the Jacobite Uprisings. For example http://www.highlanderweb.co.uk/culloden/home.htm, or perhaps maybe http://www.electricscotland.com/history/culloden/

http://www.queenofscots.co.uk/culloden/cull.html

I found these very helpful in my research. I have not yet found which clans took part in it..but I'm sure if you looked up info on the memorial, it shows all the clan names that took part in it...I'll take a look and get back to you asap!

*~Ash~*

[SherbrookeJacobite]

There were some Clans with members on both sides. There were also many individuals who chose to follow HRH Charles Stuart although their Clan did not. Also, every Clan had soldiers with different surnames (i.e. the Camerons would have had MacMillans, MacMartins etc. the MacDonalds (or MacDonnells) of Keppoch had Stewarts and even Campbells as adherents). The Chief of the MacIntosh Clan was an officer in the electors army, while his wife brought out the Clan for the Prince.

The book "Culloden" by John Prebble will give you a good insight into the Rising of 1745, and its tragic end at Culloden.

If you ever get the chance to go there, there is an excellent interpretive centre at the Culloden battlefield, near Inverness. It is a very moving place.

As to your question - I know there were some MacLeods in the Prince's army
" The Camerons, Stewarts of Appin and the Athollmen made up the right flank's first line. The men of Atholl were positioned on the far right "with their flank resting on the dry-stone wall of the Culwhinia enclosure." Between them and the Stewarts was Lochiel's regiment. A reported 700 men, mainly from Lochaber, were there in Lochiel's formation, mostly consisting of Camerons but also known to include a few men from at least the following clans and septs: Fraser, Grants, MacDonald, MacDougall, MacHoule, MacKenzie, MacLachlan, MacLeod, MacMartin, MacMillan, MacNeill, MacOllonie, MacPhee and even a few men from Clan Campbell. Nevertheless, this was a Clan Cameron regiment, accompanied by their septs and various tenants from Lochiel's estate."
from: http://www.clan-cameron.org/battles/1746_b.html

But I don't know how many were there, or if there were MacAskills. If I remember correctly, the Clan MacLeod did not come out in force for the Prince, but some of the smaller branches did.

MacAskill, I believe, is a sept of the MacLeods of Lewis.

You can also check out "The Muster Roll of Prince Charles Edward Stuart" - although the actual muster roll is far from complete - it will give you a good idea of what Clans were represented.

It is a fascinating story, I'm sure you'll enjoy learning about it.

Slainte,

John

[Neul_Oran]

At Culloden, aren't there a lot of large mounds where the dead Scots were buried, in mass graves? I'll take a wild guess that they were recognized by their tartan, because I also heard that there are grave markers on the mounds with clan names on them.

[scottishlover]

Neul_Oran, that's also what I've heard, but what I don't know is which clans participated. Such a sad ordeal.....*sigh* All could have been prevented...but anyhow......Gotta go!

*~Ash~*

[SherbrookeJacobite]

Originally posted by Neul_Oran
At Culloden, aren't there a lot of large mounds where the dead Scots were buried, in mass graves? I'll take a wild guess that they were recognized by their tartan, because I also heard that there are grave markers on the mounds with clan names on them.

There are a lot of large mounds, marked by stones with the names of the Clans buried beneath - but they wern't identified by the Clan tartans - the mounds were marked because local people knew which Clans were buried in which graves. It was the local traditions which enabled the marking of the graves, many long years after the battle.

The Clans at Culloden didn't all wear the same tartans. The concept of Clans all wearing the same tartan is more prevalent now than it was then. Although there is some evidence to suggest that some Clans did wear the same, or similar patterns, it was likely that these were regional tartans as opposed to Clan tartans. Many of our modern Clan tartans also have more recent origins. Some bits of pre-Culloden tartan have survived, and some portraits show early tartans - but a lot of what we know consider our Clan tartan is a more modern design.

There is a legend that says that Heather won't grow on the graves of the Clans. I have been there - and although there is a plant growing over the graves, it isn't the Heather which covers the deforested battlefield.

It is a very moving place - and there is an excellent interpretive centre there, with very helpful & knowledgeable staff. I highly recommend visiting the Battlefield to get a true sense of what truly happened there.

[sasarchiver]

gess this is an ald post lol

Well shelly, im part macaskill, my grandmothers side.

ive been doing alot of research into my familys history, on both sides, scotland and Norway, as im part norwegian.
Now i have a document here that states the father of all the macaskills was the last king of Dublin,in 1161, by the name of Asculph Mac-Torcall, who's time in Dublin was subject to the English, and he was killed.
Hope this name helps you, its a start.

Feel free to contact me...
Gordon

At Culloden, aren't there a lot of large mounds where the dead Scots were buried, in mass graves? I'll take a wild guess that they were recognized by their tartan, because I also heard that there are grave markers on the mounds with clan names on them.

Yes there is, and there marked by small grave stone like rocks. There marked by there clans, or as ive seen, Mixed clans.