Skudras wha hae..

[chimera]

On bagpipes: Galician "gaita" =Macedonian "gayda"=Gothic "gaitis" (goatskin pipes). Goths arrived in Spain when clans sailed from Eire.

[chimera]

An interesting parallel between Eire and the Caspian Sea region, which was of Scythian heritage:-
(quote)"Glendalough: The round tower
There is also one of these typical Irish Round towers... ...the real purpose of them is not yet really clear for scientists. .
In the hight of about 5 meters there was a door that could be blocked in case of enemies approaching. So this was for saftey reasons, but why would they have built such a high tower for that ?? "

(quote)."Baku's Maiden Tower
by Dr. Seyran Valiyev
On the southern side of the cylindrical-shaped tower are relatively narrow niches about the height of a man through which the sun enters to illuminate the inner chambers. Rather curiously, there appears to be an external door that opens out to nowhere from the fourth floor. There is even a slot for a wooden spar, which seems to have served as a door-lock. But why on the fourth floor?"
chimera

[wild-in-tent]

The Belgae were a confederation of German and Celtic tribes,
Belgae: the current view is that the Belgae were a cross between celtic and germanic tribes, tall with blond hair. Julius Caesar wrote that the Belgae differed from the Gauls and other tribes such as the Aquitani in language, customs and laws even though they lived in the northern part of what Caesar called Gaul. Caesar also states "the greater part of the Belgae were sprung, from the Germans". The Belgae fought the Romans in the Gallic Wars (58 BC-51 BC). One of the belgic tribes, the Aduatuci, was virtually wiped out. Also see J.A. MacCulloch's book, "The Religion of the Ancient Celts" (1st ed. 1911), who states that the Belgae were Germanic, based on the analysis of the skulls found in the Belgicae burials of Grenelle, Sclaigneaux and Borreby, France.
Gallia Belgica, a part of ancient Roman Gaul, had many different tribes: Caleti, Velocasses, Morini, Atrebates, Menapi, Morini, Nervi, Bellovaci, Remi, Eburoni, Veromandui, Aduatuci, Condrusi, the Eburones, the Caeraesi, the Paemani. The Belgae were probably a federation of these various tribes, as Caesar discussed. [Note from Kevin: Hawkes 1968 Cunliffe 1988 and 1991 seem to think that the Belgae/Belgii were a celtic tribe from nothern Gaul who migrated to central southern England (Hampshire and West Sussex) between 100 and 80 B.C.]. The Belgae spoke another dialect of Celtic mixed with German. [Source: From: J. B. Greenough, Benjamin L. D'Ooge, M. Grant Daniell, Commentary on Caesar's Gallic War]. "The Belgae themselves believed that their ancestors had crossed the Rhine into Gaul from the east and this tradition may reflect a prehistoric migration, perhaps in the second century BCE." [Source: Ancestors: The Origins of the People and Countries of Europe by Martin Berg and Miles Litvinoff (Eurobook 1992)]
The Romans said that the Celtic tribe the Helvetii were aligned with the Belgae and that the Helveti ranged all the way to the land we now call Switzerland. The Tigurini were also mentioned and that Celtic tribe ranged into Northern Italy.There were however more German tribes than Celt. In most readings seven major tribes are mentioned. 3 are Celtic and 4 are German.....but there were more than that as they had bits and pieces of other tribes helping out in the rebellion against the Romans. In Irish writings it is noted that the Belgae's language was Brythonic.

[bell-the-cat]

Originally Posted by chimera

An interesting parallel between Eire and the Caspian Sea region, which was of Scythian heritage:-
(quote)"Glendalough: The round tower
There is also one of these typical Irish Round towers... ...the real purpose of them is not yet really clear for scientists. .
In the hight of about 5 meters there was a door that could be blocked in case of enemies approaching. So this was for saftey reasons, but why would they have built such a high tower for that ?? "

(quote)."Baku's Maiden Tower
by Dr. Seyran Valiyev
On the southern side of the cylindrical-shaped tower are relatively narrow niches about the height of a man through which the sun enters to illuminate the inner chambers. Rather curiously, there appears to be an external door that opens out to nowhere from the fourth floor. There is even a slot for a wooden spar, which seems to have served as a door-lock. But why on the fourth floor?"
chimera

Your moronic ramblings are really getting completely out of hand. Baku's "Maiden's tower" is not of "Scythian heritage" - its concept, structure, and design is Persian in origin, and is a surviving remnant of a much larger defensive system (which may be why it has windows and doors in odd positions), rather like the similar (but later) fragment in Tabriz, the so-called "Ark of Tabriz". Other interpretations are that that part of the structure once served as an astodan: the door on the fourth floor opened out onto a platform which gave access to the niches - the niches themselves being ossuarys where human bones were stored.
Are we going to see your true madness revealed when you suggest that the Irish round towers were built by Zoroastrians!

[chimera]

Scythians were Persians:_
(quote)"Dr Thomas observes: " It would seem probable that the tribes from eastern Iran who invaded India included diverse elements mingled indistinguishably together, so that, it is not possible to assert that one dynasty was Parthian while another was Saka..." etc [38].
"The nomenclature of the early Sakas in India shows an admixture of Scythian, Parthian and Iranian elements.." [39].
According to James Tod and other western scholars, all Central Asian tribes connected with horse-culture like the Assaceni/Aspasios, Assacanus/Assakenois (the famous Ashvaka Kambojas....i.e. the Ashvayanas/Ashvakayanas of Panini), the Ari-aspi and the Asii/Asio of the classical writings etc belonged to the Scythic or Saca races [40]. Asii/Asio appears to be Parama Kambojas living in Shakadvipa of Mahabharata/Puranas or the Scythia of classical writings."(end quote).
(quote)"Archaeologically, "Thraco-Cimmerian" artefacts are metal (usually bronze) items, particularly parts of horse tacks, found in a late Urnfield context, but without local Urnfield predecessors for their type. They appear rather to spread from the Koban culture of the Caucasus and northern Georgia, which together with the Srubna culture, blends into the 9th to 7th centuries pre-Scythian Cernogorovka and Novocerkassk cultures, and by the 7th century, "Thraco-Cimmerian" objects are spread further west over most of Eastern and Central Europe, locations of finds reaching to Denmark and eastern Prussia in the north and to Lake Zürich in the west. Together with these bronze artefacts, earliest Iron items appear, ushering in the European Iron Age, corresponding to the Proto-Celtic expansion from the Hallstatt culture.
The arefacts labelled "Thraco-Cimmerian" all belong to a category of upper class, luxury objects, like weapons, horse tacks and jewelry, and they are recovered only from a small percentage of graves of the period. From this it is assumed that the "Thraco-Cimmerian" migration did not consist of large populations, but rather of relatively small groups who installed themselves as ruling class over the indigenous Urnfield/Hallstatt population."(end quote).
A DnA survey confirms the above:_
www.davidkfaux.org/Cimbri-Chronology.pdf
A Tower of Silence is not a Fire Temple.
(quote)."Design Analysis
The remains of the fire-temple consist of four squat, circular columns with a diameter of 1.3 metres, resting on cylindrical bases. These columns are set 1.8 metres apart and are placed so as to form a square. The columns are not monolithic, but are constructed from smaller blocks of stone. They carry plain capitals that are also constructed from smaller blocks (three or four pieces). No evidence of the structure's roof was found by the Russians (or the Turks). However, the massiveness of the columns suggests a stone roof. An altar (see the coin depicted at the bottom of this page) would presumably have been sited under this roof, in the centre of the square. The Russian excavators drew up a conjectural reconstruction showing what the fire-temple may have looked like. A flat roof is equally possible."(end quote).
Zoroaster's reforms of Persian tradition came after Scythian presence around Baku, but that older Vedic custom was retained in part, such as the teaching of mount Meru represented by a peak (built as a tower) with 4 corner peaks. This is suggested by the square fire temple "mihr" with gables, in the form of the Celtic miniature-replica temple of Pershore UK, and Gournay-sur-Aronde Celtic temple. In the latter, the centre had a pole with the main sacrificial pit at its foot. As fire was sacred in Celtic seasonal ritual, possibly fire also featured in temples. Scythians and Celts shared the same /echidna phaiper/
viper-woman ancestor. Vipers can strike like cats.
chimera

[BornAgainScot]

is this leading anywhere chimera or are you just posting any old garbage? personally I think it has to be the latter!

[chimera]

As with Bellcat, I ask you to state which academic quoted above is writing garbage. Do you accept that Goths migrated around the east Alps and on to Spain? Do you agree that Alans were shipped to Roman Britain, from the Ukraine region?
chimera