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Old 22nd April 2006, 22:59
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I bet this might be of interest, if only we could understand what you are typing.....
I bet it isn't. About all it perhaps shows is that Islamic thinking hasn't progressed much further from the way it was practiced during the 8th century. Which should please the Islamists, since for them that was the ideal time to be in.
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Old 22nd April 2006, 23:36
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Awwwww, c'moaaaaannnnnn - gie him the benefit o the doot.
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Old 24th April 2006, 17:40
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I'm going to write to Lochiel, of Cameroon, and ask him what he thinks of these African origin stories.
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Old 25th April 2006, 15:52
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The name of Oran

Hello,my name is Houssine Najaar,i'm ethnologist and linguist,i'm 40 years old,i'm specialised in celtic civilisation,in this moment and since 5 years i study Breton which are language of Brittany,celtic population in North-West of France,i'm also a great admiratif of Scottich and Welsh celtics.I have studied in Irish center in Paris,Gaelic for two years but whitout success,the adress of the center is www.centre-irlandais.fr, this reashearchs is a great part of my life,i begining in 1989 and i was specialised in a small isle situated in the Golf du Morbihan,his name is Groix,most population of this isle is a celtic descendant and a few of them is descendant of arabs refugee in this isle in the 8th,in the reigne of calif Abderahmen the first,the boat of this arabs navigators was naufraged in a tempest,4 of them save his live,and stayed in Groix in the 8th, i have take this information from a book published in french in 1895,by french physician who writte the history of this isle.His name is Dr J.Vincent,the titl is :L'Ile the Groix autrefois.You can byi it in www.amazon.fr he was reedited mainly.Today the population of this isle speak only french because the breton is forbiden in french scool.

The name of Oran is in french in arabic is Wahrran,if you supprim the first letter w,we have the gaelic name of isle of arran.This is a new proof of my theory which i have developed in a precedent message.I repeat in summary my point of view,i believ the celtic was population of the sea and for the comparison Germanic or slavic was population of the earth,this is my first point,i believ you are alright whit me for this point.The habitant of isle de Groix are a big mariners befor the WW2,and you have Groisillons (Goisillons is the french name of habitant the Groix),writte in a book a poem wchi he call, the coulor of his blood in his body is not red like the all men but is glaz like the coulor of the sea and he call when he was a baby he drunk the milk of his moter,which are not witte but glaz like the coulor of the sea.This devlopement rejoingn my idea of theCeltic population is a civilisation of the sea and Germanic population or Slavic population is devloped a earth civilisation.The time is 16:48 P.M i'go to listen a cour in linguistic for this reason i can complet my message.You can send me your comments or proposition or question in this site or in mi box directly. houssinenajaar@yahoo.com
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Old 25th April 2006, 16:26
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So, OK..... I DID give him the benefit of the doubt. I was wrong. I admit it. I'm sorry. You lot were RIGHT.
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Old 17th May 2006, 12:15
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I can understand most of this because at one time I had a boyfriend from Algeria....I got used to this stuff and his pronounciations lol! What could help you a bit ( I will read this more thoroughly later) is the evidence DNA wise that the Celts and Berbers and Basques are from common ancestors..yes there is Spanish in the Irish from the Iberian Peninsula...check in Northern Spain for data...forget southern the Celts were in the North. Check also Phoenicians as they were also allied with some of the Celtic migrations of long times past and in fact there are phoenician idols in Britian...the awful goddess Bel Hathor I believe she is called....aka Baal's wife....although she is called the
sheelnagig goddess in Ireland...(same awful thing she is)....gives me the creeps to no end. You will also find her in Turkey where our populations also were at one time...though I stress our people at one time were like a long arm that swept along at its own pace...so there were tribes in Asia and Europe simultaneously....for a long while they traversed back and forth and told the Romans that Britain...."was only a far flung OUTPOST",...as in not a home just a post. Maybe the best way to explain it is by using Ghengis Khanas an example...his men roamed from Mongolia to France...yet the main home post was in Mongolia....the Celts were nomadic as well in some cases and there were Celts who were settled as well...it all depended on the circumstances and the Caste. There were 4 castes and the Warrior caste went all over the world as mercenary soldiers....the priestly or Druid caste had training centres and were therefore as a rule in fixed places...though personal druids or tribal druids were also common....the Berber and the Celts have phoenician ties and note the Phoenicians were from Lebanon. Look there as alot of really good archaelogical data can be had in those areas. Check th Danmoni tribe (my tribe) as we traded Tin from our mines in Cornwall with Israel. My family ruled Cornwall in our Celtic past and Brittany and in Wales....all their royal Celtic families were tied to each other at least as long as we ruled...brothers and cousins were put in Wales Cornwall and Brittany in the areas that were our domain...in fact our family's DNA has Jewish and Spanish blood. Our family kept records and Brittany has done a wonderful job on the archaeology. Check there. Brittany has records in French.


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Hello,my name is Houssine Najaar,i'm ethnologist and linguist,i'm 40 years old,i'm specialised in celtic civilisation,in this moment and since 5 years i study Breton which are language of Brittany,celtic population in North-West of France,i'm also a great admiratif of Scottich and Welsh celtics.I have studied in Irish center in Paris,Gaelic for two years but whitout success,the adress of the center is www.centre-irlandais.fr, this reashearchs is a great part of my life,i begining in 1989 and i was specialised in a small isle situated in the Golf du Morbihan,his name is Groix,most population of this isle is a celtic descendant and a few of them is descendant of arabs refugee in this isle in the 8th,in the reigne of calif Abderahmen the first,the boat of this arabs navigators was naufraged in a tempest,4 of them save his live,and stayed in Groix in the 8th, i have take this information from a book published in french in 1895,by french physician who writte the history of this isle.His name is Dr J.Vincent,the titl is :L'Ile the Groix autrefois.You can byi it in www.amazon.fr he was reedited mainly.Today the population of this isle speak only french because the breton is forbiden in french scool.

The name of Oran is in french in arabic is Wahrran,if you supprim the first letter w,we have the gaelic name of isle of arran.This is a new proof of my theory which i have developed in a precedent message.I repeat in summary my point of view,i believ the celtic was population of the sea and for the comparison Germanic or slavic was population of the earth,this is my first point,i believ you are alright whit me for this point.The habitant of isle de Groix are a big mariners befor the WW2,and you have Groisillons (Goisillons is the french name of habitant the Groix),writte in a book a poem wchi he call, the coulor of his blood in his body is not red like the all men but is glaz like the coulor of the sea and he call when he was a baby he drunk the milk of his moter,which are not witte but glaz like the coulor of the sea.This devlopement rejoingn my idea of theCeltic population is a civilisation of the sea and Germanic population or Slavic population is devloped a earth civilisation.The time is 16:48 P.M i'go to listen a cour in linguistic for this reason i can complet my message.You can send me your comments or proposition or question in this site or in mi box directly. houssinenajaar@yahoo.com
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Old 20th June 2006, 22:07
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Biblical origin stuff is pretty much unsubstantiated and illogical stuff, so i will discard it.
There is an undercurrent stream of British Israelism, which is not only unfounded and unsubstantiated, it is utterly revisionist of history and simply seeks to propagate a ludicrous idea about some group of people who are the self-styled 'chosen people' stuff.
If you wanna look at the history of scotland, look no further than the ancient Celts and Picts, who were neo-modern inhabitants of the isles with basic cultural and societerial premise, with a massive influx of Nordic and Anglo-Saxon blood during the Viking and migration era.

As per the middle-eastern themed names, there may be some truth to that. Ancient Europe was well charted by the Phoenicians and the Greeks and all mediterranean languages of the past share a commonality with ancient Egyptian. Given that the mediterranean nations such as Greece, Phoenicia and Egypt were the bastions of civilisation in those days, its not surprising that names coined by them have stuck.Caledonia is another example with turkic connotations stretching back from the 1300s( Caledonia = Kali Duniya = black earth, in reference to the predominantly black-silt and peatbog marshes of Ireland and the Isles).Hebrew is nothing more than evolved heiratic - which isnt surprising given that the early Israelis (or the biblical israelis) were an offshoot of egyptians that went and destroyed Caanan.
There is no mention-not one- of Jewish links to the entire French and Islandic celts till Brian Boru's grandson in the 1100s and with little minor cultural influences on the celts from the miniscule jewish settlements on the isles around that period, fleeing the persecution of the Reconquista(bulk of the ejected jews went to Morocco/modern day Israel-Palestine-Lebanon-Syria, some went to the relatively obscure isles in those days).
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