Scots as Israelites??

[NovaBritannia]

Originally Posted by anglosaxon

This person claims that proof of all of this exists in the "College of Arms" in England.

I saw some loony compare the United Kingdom's national heraldry (ie, our coat of arms and what have you) to symbols of the tribes of Israel. I got the impression that the fellow writing this (on a website, try searching for it) was a bit unbalanced.

Here's another site on the subject: http://jahtruth.co.uk/britca.htm

[Scottish_Republican]

The tribes of Israel probably did influence heraldry here. Through the Bible, not through descent from such people.

[Sakhu]

Hi,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulk_V_of_Anjou

Here is the Scot, english connection

You can start any research from this point onwards.

[Rogerws1]

I have studied this as well and find most claims to be outlandish. A mainstream religion in the United States (The Worldwide Church of God) was founded on this principle but the church itself has disabused itself of this teaching after more scholarly as well as spiritual guidance. Google the church by name and you should find all you ever wanted to know.

Although the Scythians in the Declaration of Arbroath could certainly have included some members of the lost tribes it is very unlikely that they WERE one of THE tribes (that is IF the story about Scythian migration can even be proved).

Most of the time this THEORY of British-Isrealism is used it is to impart some kind of spiritual power to the leader who espouses it. These leaders have claimed to be all sorts of people including one of the Angels in the Book of Revelation or Elijah or Moses (if that is even their names), the two witnesses to the Isrealites mentioned in the book of Revelation.

[DistantCelt]

This whole Isreal stuff doesnt add up.
The whole underlying subcurrent in north American christianity is somehow associate themselves with the historic Israelis and claim some sort of higher moral ground or precedence. Fact is, such claims are totally unsubstantiated and utterly ludicrous from population dynamics angle.
The Levant never contained anything more than a fraction of the human population at any given time and the levant was not advanced enough at any point in its ancient history to undertake massive trade and cultural links outside the vicinity of the mediterranean, especially after the fall of the Phoenician civilisation.
All these claims about jewishness of this or that is largely a product of British Israelism.( so far i've heard of the Tocharians, the mythical aryans, celts, danes, ukrainians etc. all being 'jews'- which would lead to something preposterous as atleast 25-30% of human population living in the levant at some point-which is way way off the target).

If you want to find out which group is connected closest to the ancient jews, look no further than the Sephardic Jews and Palestinians/Syrians/Jordanians/Lebanese of today.
Infact, the bulk of the jewish population of today ( over 90%) share no direct connection with the historical Israelis. The bulk of the jews today are Ashkenazim, who were Khazars that converted (and any claims of Khazars descending from the Jews is utterly unsubstantiated along cultural and linguistic lines) to Judaism.
Unfortunately, the butchering of the Sephardim by the Spaniards and the crusaders meant that the Ashkenazim were the dominant group of jewish faith followers from 1300s or so onwards (infact, records indicate that 90% of jews pre 1200s were Sephardic-that number has gradually decreased to less than 10% today). Not to mention, the bulk of the jewish community that perpetually inhabited the levant eventually converted to Islam.

[Harika]

Hello! I am new to this forum and trying to join some discussion...
I read that some studies even claim some American Indian tribes to be descended from the 12th lost Jewish tribe, this because of a stone allegedly carved in ancient Hebrew that was found somewhere in the American plains.
Useless to say that I consider all this as pure garbage... but without such stories, how could some... "authors" write and sell their books?

[Eleana]

interesting... and here I thought they were all from Atlantis...

Not picking on you, Harika. You're from Italy you say, where from?