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Old 1st November 2011, 14:07
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This would be because the regiment in question - The Campbell Fencibles - was raised in territory controlled by the Clan Campbell..
I beg to differ as to their identity as The Campbell Fencibles . As I understand it, they were officially known as Argyll's Regiment and they weren't fencibles, Though raised by the Marquis of Argyll and containing a large number of Campbells and associated septs and adherents in their officers and ranks, they were on the Scottish establishment of the British regular army and were raised to fight against the Jacobites, as had the Edinburgh Regiment (forerunners of the KOSB's) and the Earl of Angus's Regiment (aka the Cameronians). They were equipped as any British regiment with companies of musketeers and pikemen. They wore standard British uniform apart from Highland bonnets with a cut-out yellow cloth boar's head and coronet badge, plus tartan body plaids (of the dark sett favoured by their founder and later known as Government sett), plus grey "breeks" and yellow stockings. After the Glencoe operation in which part of the regiment had taken part was over, they were leter sent to Flanders to take part in King William III's military operations with the British Army against the French and their allies. They could not use Fencibles abroad, who had a home-service contract. Argyll's regiment was disbanded in 1698 after cessation of hostilities, having created a good reputation as an effective fighting regiment.

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Surely the order would have been given on the 12th of February so that it could be executed at 5am on the 13th?

Almost seven years and six months after the last contribution to this thread, I'm not sure if you'll get a response from the original posters!
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As a Campbell, I am a bit divided on this. The deep rivalry would be true, the MacDonalds would have done the same to us. True enough.

It seems that it was heavy handed and less a police action or even, battle then a "kill anything moving" sorta thing.

Also, as a Catholic, a bit less sympathetic with my own Clan by this time. Though, due to religious fights,things got brutal on both sides to be sure.

I think historical discussons are good, but theevents are now soo far removed, would like it to be more academic. Would like to see both sides move forward together for a free and independant Scotland......as all clans should....
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Almost seven years and six months after the last contribution to this thread, I'm not sure if you'll get a response from the original posters!
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Old 2nd December 2011, 16:14
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The masacre of Glencoe certainly wasn't engineered by the Campbells even if they were the people who carried it out.It was engineered by lowland Scots politicians and their counterparts in London who saw a means of setting an example to Gaelic society that any disloyalty to the new monarch William would be swiftly and mercilessly dealt with.
William was a usurper true and the Anglos have always been good at "divide and conquer"
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William was a usurper true and the Anglos have always been good at "divide and conquer"
Anglos ?

The William that you refer to was not an Anglo
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