Citzenship Question

[JCfromGA]

Like you said.. 'should' is conditional. Preference of word choice is up to the user. There is no 'evidence' just an example.

Hey tig, long time know see. Both of his grandparents are British citizens from one side. I'm not sure about Scotland but a lot of countries have ancestry laws for citizenship. Mother was born here. Many countries allow for grandchildren to be citizen.. so hopefully the person inquiring will have some luck and get his passport. All they did was fill out the paperwork, paid, and gave it to him for his birthday. He wanted to be Scottish like his grandfather and play for Scotland's soccer team. Sweet child. btw, how have you been?

[tig]

im good JC thanks...sitting enjoying the torrential rain lol

hows your good self keeping.


your grandparent being British dont cut it tho im afraid....it has to be one of your parents that is a national so maybe he did it for one of his own kids years ago or something and got it that way

[JCfromGA]

Hey Tig. Glad to hear you're doing well. The weather has been insane here too! I've just been busy working.

And you're right, he could have.... or he may have had to get papers for both. I know in Ireland, the parent has to apply before the grandchild. Anyways, I'm sure the person inquiring will find out one way or another if he follows the links provided.

Anyways, I am so glad it's Friday. I've a long week of hard patients... and harder to deal with families. So Saturday I'm relaxing. Sunday I have a shinty match. You should come out!

[Lachlan09]

I’m about to enter the officialdom fray again !

My son, who is now 16, was born in the Philippines before my wife and I got married. I was back in the UK when he was born. A year later, they joined me in Indonesia and he came with a Filipino passport. When we moved to the UK in late 1998 (by which time my wife and I were married), my son had a stamp put in his passport by the UK Embassy, Jakarta, giving him unrestricted entry / exit to the UK, I believe in perpetuity and not necessarily with me present. Our daughter was born in Indonesia and under Indonesian law, immediately assumed father’s nationality ie British and got a British passport (her first passport photo had her as a baby being held up to the camera – cute !).

We stayed in England for a year and a bit, before going to the Philippines to work for 2 years. Then we stayed in England for 4 years until we came to Oman in 2006. During our time in England, we started to see about a British passport for my son (The Philippine government had at last accepted the policy of dual-passports for their nationals). My wife is happy to continue keeping her Filipino nationality as it will be more useful when we retire (some long day off) to the Philippines, for house ownership etc and it's unlikely we'll live in the UK again. I might get Philippine nationality some day as otherwise to reside as an unsponsored foreigner I need to prove I have a large stash of cash in my bank account. (They required it to be maintained at USD 75,000 the last time I checked the regs and that I will never have)

My daughter has no intention of getting a Philippine passport as well as her British one. My son now really wants a British passport. He sees himself working and living primarily in the UK training and qualifying as a chef and has no intention of living in the Philippines. He doesn’t feel Filipino, doesn’t speak the language (he unlearnt it due to his learning difficulties in English schools), has no real interest in the food and feels bored and uncomfortable with his Filipino cousins (esp those who can’t speak English) when we go to visit. He supports Arsenal, likes Linkin Park and 30 Seconds to Mars and loves cooking. He’s doing his internship right now in the Italian restaurant of a big hotel here. He considers himself a Brit – I don’t think he looks on himself as Scottish necessarily, nor does his sister, but they seem to like the Scottish side of things and that side of the family history.

So I’ll be trotting off to the British Embassy here to see what can be done. If successful, I’ll go back to Omani authorities to get his stamps transferred.

The time-consuming part might be the Filipino authorities, not the British. Like other countries in developing parts of the world, they seem to be in love with red-tape (literally). Maybe because it creates more chances for giving baksheesh to move things on.

Did you know, when my passport is due to expire, I won’t be able to renew it at the Embassy, I have to mail it to some passport place in Frankfurt, Germany. God bless the EU.

[thedentist]

Originally Posted by Scotsgait

"Should" is indeed conditional - but it's a lot more definitive than words such as "possibly" or "may be" which I think would have been more appropriate to use, especially when your "evidence" is so anecdotal.

We don't know everything about it. to save us all the trouble and just to be sure

(The general rules for children are found at UK Border Agency | Children born to British subjects )

It's one thing to get an advice from us and it's another to get it directly from the people in charge.