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Old 20th December 2002, 01:10
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I have a question about the look of the peoples on British Isles.
Why does Scotish and Irish mostly have a blondish or redish hairs ,light eyebrows and usually tall and often build up. And English mosly have a dark hairs (but they never look like Italians) middle body construction and slender.? Also why English tend to have a hook noses, while Scotish and Irish have more little and straight noses.?
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Old 20th December 2002, 20:52
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Old 6th January 2003, 11:06
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Are you going on stereotype or have you actually been to Scotland. Blonde and Red hair is no more prevalent than dark hair, in fact I would say dark hair is more so. As to build there are a lot os smaller men in Glasgow so the gnetics are obviously regionalised within the main.
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Old 11th January 2003, 01:36
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About 80% of Scottish and Irish people belong to Haplogroup 1. Haplogroups are basically a genetic way of describing race, and they are based on a sequence of genes on the Y-chromosome. Sons almost always inherit an identical copy of their fathers Y chromosome, and the same applies for paternal grandfather and great-grandfather etc, etc. Prior to 3000 years ago, all of Europe’s inhabitants belonged to haplogroup 1, and this was established my analyzing the bones of people who lived back then.

Today, much of Europe is of "Aryan" extraction, which includes Haplogroups 2, 3, and 4. HP2 being Germanic, HP3 being Scandinavian/Slavic, and HP4 being described as Finnish. The bulk of these people (particularly Germanic tribes) arrived in Europe as the Roman Empire began to falter. For example, the Anglo-Saxons arrived in Britain when the Romans abandoned it to safeguard more important bases in Europe. Prior to this date, the people of southern Britain were Briton Celts. These people were left defenseless when the Romans left, and the Saxons removed them from all of the south of Briton bar Wales and Cornwall. Many Britons also fled to France to form Brittany.

An interesting conclusion of haplogroup anthropology from a Scots perspective, is the fact that the Scottish are of Pictish/Gaelic extraction both in the Highlands and in the Lowlands - this accounts for the 80% HP1 figure. Ironically Ulster has a higher HP1 percentage than the Irish province of Leinster (contains Dublin) - although this is simply explained by the fact that most of those planted in Ulster were Scottish, while the Irish midlands was planted by English, Normans and Huguenot.

Its also important to keep in mind that Celtic people have, and are still, moving to England in vast numbers. Ireland's population was similar to that of England's prior to the potato famine - today their population is about 1/15 of England’s. There are 50 million Irish Americans and a third of Australia’s population is of Irish decent. So you can guess yourself as to what percentage of England population is Irish-English, Scottish-English, Welsh-English, Manx-English, or Cornish English. This movement of Celts to English cities would help explain why anthropologists have recorded values of 60% HP1 in Essex.
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Old 12th January 2003, 16:13
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I have a question about the look of the peoples on British Isles.
Why does Scotish and Irish mostly have a blondish or redish hairs ,light eyebrows and usually tall and often build up. And English mosly have a dark hairs (but they never look like Italians) middle body construction and slender.? Also why English tend to have a hook noses, while Scotish and Irish have more little and straight noses.?
mmm where did you get this info from cos i can say i am english and i have dark hair but my bro has blonde hair and i certainly don't have a hooked nose i have a cute button nose and why does everyone assume scottish and irish people have red hair?
my sister in law is irish and she has blonde hair.
i feel it's down to genetics rather than where your from?
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Old 15th January 2003, 01:11
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I have English, Irish and Scottish bloodlines and fit none of your concepts of these "races". Perhaps I am the perfect genetic balance!

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Old 9th February 2003, 03:10
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Where does Brittany come into play here and Cornwall? the Britons are largely now known to have Scythian bloodlines mixed in their Celtic past very heavily in fact...and what about our long sorjourn going back and forth to Turkey which the Romans long ago noted? Also the Berbers have a link with Ireland and the Danes give us alot of that red hair....they also came with us to battle Rome ....the Romanians have alot of lore about the Celtic formations in Wallachia...of different Celtic tribes meeting and fighting with Rome, the Romanians aka Daci were a Celtic tribe who came from Iran-they are dark and light too...and so on....our people have always had light and dark....well since the ancient Cimmerians began mixing prior to leaving ancient Persia and Turkey...ancient Persia used to be a huge area which also included Northern India...so I say we carry the genetics of many...and only since our sojourn there in the British Isles became somewhat more permanent with pressure from Rome...Brittania was the last bastion so to speak for all the Celts of Europe... did we begin to become more Germanic looking once again...as the proto Celts long gone did prior to mixing...so to me if we stay amongst each other we will eventually get closer to looking like the Proto Celts....a bit...but the Protos are long gone....we are the end result of a very ancient once very vast and long history of many places prior to our final resting place called Britanny, Brittania......Brittania was once called the last outpost ....a far off land in our vast range...now it is home....so bones only tell part of the story of our ancient past I feel...what do you guys think?




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