Grant's Be Ye!

[Eleana]

considering the fact that the thread was started by someone in 2002 I am astounded how much rumble it still may cause and to be honest I feel lost. Is the bickering really necessary?

Unfortunately not everybody in the whole wide world knows that a loch means a lake in Scotland, but everybody who claims to be Scottish or of being of Scottish descent should be eager to learn what tongue your forefathers spoke and how they named the land they treasured.

so it's Loch Ness, and if you want to speak it like the Grants most likely have called it over the centuries: Loch Nis. (the s is an sh sound)

I don't know where the name of the river Nis comes from... not from nose of course, maybe nios = weasel? no clue... someone?

oh sorry... wrong thread... that's about the Grant's and not about their language.

[Polwarth]

Eleana
The voice of reason.
Thanks

[Eleana]

you're welcome.

[Duthill]

Originally Posted by Eleana

considering the fact that the thread was started by someone in 2002 I am astounded how much rumble it still may cause and to be honest I feel lost. Is the bickering really necessary?

Unfortunately not everybody in the whole wide world knows that a loch means a lake in Scotland, but everybody who claims to be Scottish or of being of Scottish descent should be eager to learn what tongue your forefathers spoke and how they named the land they treasured.

so it's Loch Ness, and if you want to speak it like the Grants most likely have called it over the centuries: Loch Nis. (the s is an sh sound)

I don't know where the name of the river Nis comes from... not from nose of course, maybe nios = weasel? no clue... someone?

oh sorry... wrong thread... that's about the Grant's and not about their language.

Elana ,
where do you get the idea that the word 'ness' is Gaelic ? It is Norse .
""The word ness is an archaic word meaning a headland or cape and comes from nes in Icelandic / Old Norse and for that reason there are many places once under Viking or Norse influence that include the word (see List of generic forms in British place names). Literally, the word means nose. ""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ness_(disambiguation)

[ScotsTraveller]

While the word Ness may be Norse (meaning cape or headland) that hardly applies to Loch Ness itself. Adamnan, writing in the 7th century about Columba, refers to the river (where Columba supposedly saw the monster) as Nesa and as this predates the Vikings arriving in the country, let alone their language having any influence on place names, suggests that the name of the river (and loch) also predates this. So, in this case, the name is NOT Norse, irrespective of whether other places that include ness as part of their name are!

[Duthill]

ScotsTraveller

Thanks , thats interesting . What language is Nesa from ?
and does it have a meaning ? .

[ScotsTraveller]

I wish I knew the answers to the second question Duthill, but all I get is its a name of undetermined origin - and there are a few of them around the country! As for the language used by Adamnan, that would have been Latin!